Re: Miller 210 or 251 or Lincoln?

On Mon, 10 Jul 2006 10:54:12 -0500, Don Foreman
<SPAMBLOCKdforeman@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

On Mon, 10 Jul 2006 07:53:46 GMT, Gunner <gunner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:



Since the MM250 isnt made anymore IRRC..the 251 would be the replacement
I guess. I was warned about the 250X being a piece of shit..and to stay
away from it. It was plug and play with the 30A gun also., according to
Miller. Id be happy with a 210, shrug..but would really like to be able
to attach the 30A spool gun, but Millers website says "not recommended"
for use with the 30A

Huh? See
http://www.millerwelds.com/products/mig/millermatic_210/accessories.php

This shows the 30A as an accessory for the 210. Looks to me like it
just needs the $57 adaptor cable so the connectors will mate and the
on-machine dial can control wirefeed rate.

If you see another 30A for $25, please grab me one! I'll be glad
to pay shipping to 55432. Tell ya whut, it *will* work with my 210!

---

It looks like the 251 has continuous voltage control where the 210 has
7 discrete steps. That could be a nice feature, though I've not found
the 7 steps on the 210 to be any problem at all. I think fine control
of voltage is more important on real thin stuff like autobody steel,
and perhaps in automated setups.

More electronics = more stuff to go wrong. ($$$) Basic copper-iron
welders are nearly indestructable, and wirefeed mechanisms are easy
enough to understand and fix if/as necessary.

Except for production, I can't see needing more than the 210 for
steel. Aluminum might be another story, but I'd rather use
TIG (Dialarc 250HF) on aluminum anyway.


Thanks Don..in the 30A product literature PDF file

http://www.millerwelds.com/pdf/spec_sheets/M1-5.pdf

on page 2, it shows the various machines it can attach to, and they said
"Not recommended" for the 210...so I was a bit concerned.

I can live with 7 taps rather than continuous adjustment and yes..I also
believe in the KISS Principle.

I just hope the dude doesn't change his mind...

Im delivering him a drill press tomorrow, so that may help keep him
focused. <G>

Gunner

"If thy pride is sorely vexed when others disparage your offering, be
as lamb's wool is to cold rain and the Gore-tex of Odin's raiment
is to gullshit in the gale, for thy angst shall vex them not at
all. Yea, they shall scorn thee all the more. Rejoice in
sharing what you have to share without expectation of adoration,
knowing that sharing your treasure does not diminish your treasure
but enriches it."

- Onni 1:33
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