Re: Anyone Here Driving a Hybrid yet?

Dave Hinz wrote:

On Thu, 29 Jun 2006 22:51:56 GMT, Pete C. <aux3.DOH.4@xxxxxxxx> wrote:
Dave Hinz wrote:

Ah, but here's a case of you badmouthing something you apparently
haven't understood. The beauty of the UI is in the workflow and logical
placement of controls, options, and so on. As with pretty much any
other Apple product, you can do anything you want with it, and if you're
struggling to figure out how to do it, you're trying to do it the hard
way. It's one of those things that you "get" and then it's like "OK,
yeah, of course."

I do Windows, VMS (DECwindows and CDE), a couple flavors of UNIX (CDE
and others) and a few others and I *still* can't stand the Mac UI.

Well, the Mac UI of today is nothing like the pre-Unix Macs.

I've seen it, a friend has one. I've even tried to use it and I *still*
hate it. The only thing remotely tolerable was the (well hidden) shell
window.


I've
hated it from the first Lisa I tried many moons ago. For most things I
prefer CLI over GUI anyway.

You do know it's a FreeBSD box these days, right? Command line is just
one application away. Runs any X11 apps you want as well. It's just
another Unix box, internally.

Exactly, so why the hell would I pay Apple some absurd price to get
their UI which I hate on top of an OS I can get for free? Apple offers
nothing but a crappy UI.


Then, there's the "sense of perspective" factor. If I buy an iPod for,
what, 150 bucks or so, I know what I'm getting. I can spend 5 hours
researching which one to get and save 20 bucks or get a slightly better
unit. But is that time well spent, or is the iPod "good enough"? We're
not talking a car that I'm going to drive 250,000 miles here, it's a
freaking walkman, y'know?

Walkmans are $10

Yeah, but it won't hold the entire book on tape I'm working through
right now.

Actually it in all probability will since even the cheap CD diskman
units handle MP3s these days. A CD of MP3 is a lot of hours of audio
book.


Stereo Bluetooth earbuds dude...

Hm. Sound quality up to the task? Keeping in perspective the
environment they'd be used in of course (office, data center)

I'd expect so. They are after all highly compressed MP3, not high def
DVD audio.

I've saved a LOT of money over the years by not being able to hear that
last 5% of sonic improvement that it takes 10x the money to get. You
know, the guys with granite turntables, whatever-pan speakers, and "OK
sit riiiiight....HERE to get the sweet spot" type systems. OK, yeah,
that's impressive, I like the warm glow and sound of tubes, yes, OK,
very nice. Gosh it's warm in here.

Indeed. For what you'd spend on one of those nonsense systems you'd be
better off getting the hell out of the house and going to a damn show
every couple days.


Yeah, but I'm still not gonna do it or justify those who do. Not my
"thing".

Me either, but I think the RIAA, MPAA and SPA should all be smacked down
for their fraudulent claims.

Agreed.

That kid living in the projects or the
trailer park downloading songs would never ever be able to buy the 1,000
CDs they pirated so the losses are in the tens of dollars range, not the
tens of thousands range like the RIAA folks like to claim.

Sure. They're collecting 'em just so they can say how many gig of stuff
they have, not so much that they're downloading them to avoid paying for
them. And I still have a hard time differentiating this from, say,
recording a TV show off the air or bird.

Exactly. If I record all those same tracks off of FM radio I'm 100%
legal, but if I download them from the 'net it's somehow different?


Sure, not saying that doesn't happen, just that I choose to not do it.
My musical tastes are pretty well settled and - gasp - I'll buy an
unheard CD from an artist I've liked in the past.

I consider the case above perfectly legit. Equivalent to hearing the
track while visiting the friend. In this case the friend was 1,700 miles
away so it was a remote visit via IM and email.

Fair enough.

You realize that this is one of the most polite disagreements I've had
in a long time. Part of me wants to throw in a gratuitous "hitler" at
this point but I"m not gonna.

Ayep, a good debate is just that.

So what was the topic?

Dunno, think it had something to do with cars...

Pete C.
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