Re: [OT] Perfect time for a roundup



Roy: you forgot to tag this OT, so I did.

On Sun, 30 Apr 2006 22:46:10 GMT, invalid@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx (Roy) wrote:

So what is the imagration dept gonna do tomorrow, go in and round up
all the marchers and sort them according to illegals or legals and
send the legals one way and the illegals south? Might be interesting.

The ICE isn't going to do anything tomorrow unless they are forced
to. The only reason the ICE raided all those various sites of that
pallet supplier (IPCO?) simultaneously was they had 3,000 people all
using the SAME fraudulent SSN, and the managers were doing all the
records falsification themselves. And there was a mole inside getting
the dirt on all the managers who were not just 'looking the other way'
but were actively doing the mass records falsification themselves.

We The People, The Citizens of the United States of America, need to
INSIST on our government writing and passing reasonable rational and
enforceable immigration policies and controls, insist on having them
instituted and properly enforced and administrated, and insist that
our government take effective efforts to secure our borders, or we are
going to have a front-row seat to watch our country go right down the
tubes. And soon.

If we do not take action now the United States is in danger of
ceasing to exist as we know it - the Reconquista movement, the Taliban
and other governments of the world will have won by default. China
(who is buying US Federal Debt paper by the billion) and OPEC will
drain us financially, as will all the immigrants who move in and
expect to send all the fruits of their labor out of the country...

Mexico's #1 source of income is through Money Orders - US Dollars
sent home from workers in the USA who do not plan to be citizens.
They'll take our dollars for 10 years and go home with them to Mexico.

There will be a lot of noise created tomorrow (May 1, 2006) at
"Pro Immigrant Rallies" by people who are trying to influence public
policy but are not citizens or legal residents of the United States,
and therefore DO NOT HAVE THE RIGHT TO VOTE or to expect to exert such
influence.

Any politician who is materially influenced by the demonstrations
tomorrow does not deserve to hold public elected office - their first
responsibility is to the CITIZENS who elected them to represent our
best interests. We have to come first.

If you want to vote on or influence public policy, you need to go
get in line and become a legal immigrant, and then a citizen of the
country, do this the right way. There have never been prosecutions of
people who register to vote illegally though there have been media
investigations that find many, they need to have the States'
Registrars of Voters start checking the rolls.

All workers need to have proof of legal residence and work status to
get any job - I have my US Passport, but a state drivers license works
IF it's validity is not diluted by issuing drivers licenses to illegal
residents that are not clearly marked as such. In California,
Democratic State Rep. Gilbert "One Bill Gil" Cedillo keeps trying to
get a bill allowing drivers licenses for anyone without clear branding
of immigration status passed through, and each year we have to beat it
back. Give them a drivers license - but you can NOT dilute it's value
as a method of identification.

Illegal workers are depressing wages in all categories of jobs -
even skilled and degreed workers. You can get a college degree abroad
(PhD or MD) a lot cheaper, and without the crushing student debt load
that a US Citizen can build up earning the same degree. Then the
immigrant gets the same job at a far lower salary (yet still several
times higher than he could expect in his home country) using an H1B
Visa, and the US Citizen can't get gainful employment at a sufficient
salary to pay back his student loans. (Default time.)

There is no such thing as a "Counterfeit-Proof" ID card, but it gets
very close if you go to a Government web site and type in the card
information and the stored picture biometrics and fingerprints from
the database pops up on the screen. You can tell the ID is a forgery
instantly if the photo and biometrics aren't even close, and it
doesn't take a fingerprint expert to decide this is not the person if
the whorls are radically different.

Employers need a method to easily and quickly verify someone's
immigration and work status - and they have to refuse employment to
those who can't prove it, period. Not temporarily, not "while we
check your records", not even 'day labor'.

And the feds need to actively prosecute any employer who hire an
illegal immigrant for any reason - even day labor. No "Catch and
Release any more, because they never come back. We may have to build
camps to hold them, but if they can't post bond and they don't have
legal family or friends to stay with, they need to be held in custody
pending repatriation.

Law enforcement needs the right (NOT a requirement, give the officer
the discretion) to be able to check someone's status if they are
suspected of committing a crime, and the right to hold them or remand
them to ICE. If we have already deported a criminal once and they are
back, they have no rights.

And in closing, President Bush needs to develop a backbone, he's
pandering almost as hard as the Dems. The line he is pushing is
incomplete - they are "Doing the work that Americans won't do", yes,
but the other part of the statement is "at the prices that the
employers are willing to pay."

Forget the "Guest Worker Programs" - Close the border, and at least
get a handle on everyone who is already here both legally and
illegally. No Amnesty, no Matricula Consular cards, but get ID's on
them (Photos and Fingerprints) and get the people who cannot prove
legal status into a database of Illegal Immigrants. Then in a year or
two all we have to so is get tight control on employment - and they
can choose to either get their legal status cleared up, go home, try
to make it on under-the-table work, or starve.

Yes, starve is a harsh word - but they're trying to do it to us.

I am willing to have rational discussions on practical solutions -
if you start babbling about the Trilateral Commission or the
Bilderbergers, I reserve the right to ignore the outburst.

--<< Bruce >>--

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