Re: Is Government Liquidation contractually required to be brain dead?


"Ignoramus15109" <ignoramus15109@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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On Wed, 22 Feb 2006 19:52:45 -0800, Harold and Susan Vordos
<vordos@xxxxxxx> wrote:

"Ignoramus15109" <ignoramus15109@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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On Wed, 22 Feb 2006 22:08:04 GMT, Fred R <"spam "@columbus.rr.com>
wrote:
If you can take the aggravation, look at what they did to a Monarch
EE

http://cgi.govliquidation.com/auction/view?id=802103

Could be the military's fault, rather than GL's. Also, to my untrained
eye, the damage looks not so bad. I would at least visit the facility
and have a close look. I do agree with your general point though, it
is sad what they do with our tax dollars...

Iggy------

Rust------*any rust*------is extremely damaging to precision machine
tools.
It's just a matter of degree of damage, and what an individual is
willing to
tolerate. Rust destroys precision surfaces by uneven erosion and
pitting.
While a machine can be returned to operating condition, it can almost
never
be returned to a precision condition without a complete
rebuild---including
replacement of precision bearings and gears when moisture has penetrated
gear boxes. The EE in question has likely been reduced to scrap iron,
thanks to the wisdom of storing machines outside instead of protecting
them
in a warehouse. My experience in following the government surplus
market
indicates the government is responsible, not the auctioneer, although
they
do little to prevent damage.

It borders on criminal the way government surplus machines and
handled------the EE is no exception, just another example.

Harold... Suppose that a chump like me buys this Monarch. Suppose that
I clean rust by using, say, abrasive pads. Surely, some precision
would be lost. But would I not be able to still use the lathe, at
reduced precision?

First, I don't consider you a chump.

Yes, the machine could be made to run, which is what I stated, but running,
and running properly, should not be confused. Knowing of your prowess
with mathematics, just imagine a formula that doesn't balance------to the
person that doesn't understand the ramifications, it may appear to be
fine----but you---with your understanding, realize that something is amiss.
That's the way it is with machine tools when you understand them well. All
too many people are content to have a machine that will make chips-----which
is *not* a measure of a machine's ability to make parts. As your skill
level improved, you'd likely struggle endlessly with a rusted machine like
the EE in question. Precision machine tools aren't like a plow. Rust hurts
them.


I sold a RG213 cable to someone for $40 today, it cost the govt $258
and the package was never opened.

i

Chuckle!

A few years back, I bid on a pallet of things from the local Army base.
Included were surplus parts from the naval base nearby. There were a
couple large stainless rod ends in the lot, with an original cost to the
government of just over $1,000 each. They were new, one still sealed in
the package. I sold them on ebay for a grand total of $22.

If you knew how the government deals with inventory, and how good and useful
items are sold as surplus so other items that are needed immediately can be
purchased (inventory cap), you'd throw up. I've seen assemblies worth
$25,000 sold for scrap, well less than one cent on the dollar, only to be
resold to the government when the need arose again. The system is badly
broken.

Harold


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