Re: paradigm shift wi/o a clutch was OT - "Out, damned spot! Out, I say!"

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jim rozen wrote:
In article <fj19t1946kaeq1ej2jj37nfkea6fpg8sll@xxxxxxx>, pyotr
filipivich
says...

Tell me again how the
Republicans are going to micro manage your life if they get in?

So if the republicans do the exact same thing, it's fine with you.
Does not make sense.

Jim
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If the Republicans do exactly the same thing........Well the hope is
that they won't. Things seem to have gone astray recently, but the
Republicans used to be the smaller government, less interference party.
No current guarantees.

In addition to what has been mentioned, the Democrats have a bill
pending to require all businesses larger than 5000 employees to spend 9
% of their payroll on health insurance.
And they have the gall to call this leveling the playing field and done
to save the state millions of dollars ( from employees using state
subsidized medical services ).

How does passing legislation based on company size level a field? And
if they really wanted to save the state money, they would include all
businesses down to all businesses that employ anyone not related to the
owners. Many times more employees of small business that don't provide
healthcare.

It is actually a bill against Wallmart, and misses all the McDonalds
employees because those employees are working for franchises.

It is a bill againt Wal-Mart, and the product of something that over 20
states have recognized: that Wal-Mart is competing with other businesses
partly by bleeding them for healthcare insurance.

How you judge this case depends upon where you start. Maryland says that the
average employer in that state (or average employer with 20 or more
employees -- something like that) spends 9% of salaries on health insurance.
Wal-Mart, most economists claim, pays something less than 5%. And then they
instruct their employees on how to collect state medicaid.

Two things happen. First, as large employers who also put fierce
cost-cutting pressure on smaller competitors, they force companies that
traditionally have made their healthcare programs part of their
attractiveness to employees, and part of their fulfillment of general
responsibility, to cut their health insurance to the bone.

That puts even more people on state medicaid, which is the second effect. In
the end, the state's taxpayers wind up footing much of the healthcare bill,
by way of increased hospitalization fees that result from caring for the
uninsured, and increased insurance and medicaid rates for everyone.

There are some pretty good anaylses of it. You may have heard that the
president of Wal-Mart has allowed that the company has fallen short of its
social responsibilities, in an interview he had with Tom Friedman -- who is,
himself, a major booster and supporter of Wal-Mart.

Concerning the matter of where you start, healthcare now costs so much that
most Wal-Mart employees can't afford the insurance to cover it. So Wal-Mart
has decided that they'll avoid the problem and keep their costs lower by
switching costs to the taxpayers. They seem to favor socialized healthcare.
<g>

If you think the traditional model of employers paying for most or all of
healthcare insurance is a good one, then Wal-Mart has shirked. Regardless,
they have driven their competitors to avoid paying for it, as well. If you
think single-payer, socialized healthcare is good, then Wal-Mart is 'way out
in front, driving us in that direction whether you like it or not.

--
Ed Huntress


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