Re: Dumb "current transformer" questions



Never use a half-wave rectifier in a CT secondary. On alternate
half-cycles it presents an open circuit to the CT secondary. If this
happens, the CT secondary voltage will skyrocket to very high numbers on
those half-cycles. You will very likely damage the CT or the connected
circuitry from the high voltage pulses.

Randy


"Ignoramus29580" <ignoramus29580@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
news:9SOnf.440$CV4.427@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> On Tue, 13 Dec 2005 23:58:59 +0000, pentagrid@xxxxxxxxx
> <pentagrid@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> On Tue, 13 Dec 2005 20:23:52 GMT, Ignoramus29580
>><ignoramus29580@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>
>>>Let's say that I have a cable and I want to measure the AC current
>>>going through it. Up to, say, 100 amps.
>>>
>>>I could use a current transformer, right?
>>>
>>>If I have a say 200:1 current transformer, then on a 100 amp AC
>>>current it would want to produce a 0.5 amp current. Then if I stick,
>>>say, a 1 ohm resistor across it, it would produce 0.5*1 = 0.5 volts
>>>AC across the resistor.
>>>
>>>Is that right?
>>
>>
>>
>> While this is correct it's not the best way to use a
>> current transformer as a measurement device. This because most
>> meters capable of reading a few volts AC FSD are messed up by the
>> forward drop of diodes used to rectifiy the AC.
>>
>> The trick is to use it as a true current transformer without
>> an intermediate voltage transformation. Feed the output of the
>> current transformer directly into a full wave rectifier - silicon
>> diodes are OK because forward voltage drop is not important.
>
> Thanks, after some thinking I realized that it is excellent advice.
>
>
>> Short circuit the rectifier output directly through a DC
>> AMMETER. The ammeter will then read directly the MEAN value (0.90
>> x RMS) of the secondary current. The voltage drop of the
>> rectifier diodes will slightly increase the voltage drop at the
>> current transformer primary but will not affect the current
>> transformation ratio. For sine wave input waveform the equivalent
>> RMS current should be read as 1.11 x the indicated DC value.
>
> That's very nice. I looked at my current transformers today and
> realized that they are 200:0.1, not 200:1 as I incorrectly reported.
>
> So, 50 amp current would translate into 0.025 amp current on the
> transformer.
>
> With, say, a 50 ohm resistor it would amount to 1.25 volts across the
> resistor, or 0.03 watts of power dissipated on the resistor. I can get
> away with using a small cheap 1/8 watt resistor.
>
> i
>


.



Relevant Pages

  • Re: (Beginner) Varistor or TVS
    ... plug brings in the signal to the transformer then ... to the coupler and the other brings in the power supply from the wall ... Whenever you're working with line voltage in an engineering lab ... And 200K is a standard resistor value. ...
    (sci.electronics.basics)
  • Re: Amp - loss of power?
    ... >> The largest resistors I have seen are 5 watt types. ... resistor, that resistor should be rated at least 40W? ... > You have a non-standard power supply transformer that may or may not ... > so running over voltage is likely to shorten the life of *many* ...
    (rec.audio.tubes)
  • Re: Amp - loss of power?
    ... > resistor, that resistor should be rated at least 40W? ... >> You have a non-standard power supply transformer that may or may not ... >> be considerably over the correct voltage, ... > I believe the transformers for this amp are no longer available. ...
    (rec.audio.tubes)
  • Re: Average Current
    ... >> If the load is primarily capacitive, all the rectifier current is ... >> rating required in the transformer. ... voltage across the capacitor. ...
    (sci.electronics.basics)
  • Re: (Beginner) Varistor or TVS
    ... the 240/120 isolation transformer i'll have to check with the lab. ... a resistor and a MOV. ... For the MOV i followed the coupler datasheet and i chose the LITTLEFUSE ... Whenever you're working with line voltage in an engineering lab ...
    (sci.electronics.basics)