OT, thanks to Peter. was: Re: Curious about Jade appraisal

First of all, thanks for taking the time for such a long and nice
reply.
I'm one of the more-or-less regulars on rec.craft.beads and I come
here
to learn other stuff. I just felt that my .sig is almost inappropriate
for this newsgroup :-)

(comments in text)

On Mar 6, 7:14 pm, "Peter W.. Rowe,"
<rec.crafts.jewe...@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
On Thu, 06 Mar 2008 20:50:11 -0800, in rec.crafts.jewelry Maren at google

<m.pur...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
On Mar 5, 3:58 pm, t_pas...@xxxxxxxxxxx wrote:

And thanks to Peter for the elaborations, I think I bought the right
material beads, going for jadeite rather than nephrite.

Neither is right or wrong, they each have their respective strengths. Nephrite,
for example, is less "crystaline" looking, and for some uses, that's nice. Also
the usually much lower price makes it attractive in some instances. It's also
tougher and harder to break, though both types of jade (nephrite or jadeite) are
quite tough as far as gem materials go. Jadeite is of course, the more highly
valued in it's finest qualites, but as I say, for some uses, nephrite may be
the preferred choice. Which is right, depends on your use and tastes.

Most of the bangles and carved things I see here are nephrite. I'm not
a carver,
and other than beads and wire and such things I don't resell stuff (I
have recently
turned into a bit of a bead store, but mostly to supply myself and
other people
locally with things that either can't be found here or are very
expensive, before
that I wasn't reselling anything, and I probably wouldn't have gotten
into buying
as much jadeite as I did).

To me jadeite has more character, and being tougher is more
appropriate to
what I make.

(it almost hurts to cut what Peter wrote, but for brevity I'm just
going to keep
what I'm commenting on)

If it's jewelry, call it so.

Well, it is and it isn't. A lot of it is farmers market stuff for
tourists.
Locally made in Hawaii, and, I admit that I actually like most of it.

Jewelry is jewelry. Whether its metal or some other material, the key to
whether it deserves respect for it's craftsmanship, and/or for it's aesthetics
and are, are not dependent on the material, but rather how, and how well, those
materials have been used. There are people who, never having had any art
training (either self taught or in school), who see some cute bracelets at some
cheap crafts fair, and figure, correctly, that they could do that.

I run into that a lot. My craftsmanship isn't great, my manual
dexterity
isn't great and I probably need new glasses (but just for that, and
with a full
time job and being able to read both paper and computer it hasn't hit
the
priority list yet). A lot of people think they can make what I make,
and then
there's the remarks on the other side "Did you make that? That's
gorgeous"
- people at work know I make things and wear the things I make.

It's the picture and the creative thought
and work that determine it's worthyness and identity.

I have a bead customer who makes really unique things. Yet, I think
it's a matter of taste, I'd rather wear mine than hers any time.

Those who are just beginning are encouraged to keep at it,
keep exploring, keep learning.

Thank you Peter, and that's why I come here.

And this group has some members who have occasionally shown little patience with
people who find a new hobby doing some very simple beading projects that amount

And some of those people are very very good. If somebody can't see
past
the very little patience they might as well not be here.

But even if you're a beginner, if your work is sincere, your desire to learn and
advance also real, you'll find plenty of people to welcome you. No apologies
needed.

Thanks again,
Aloha,
Maren
(posting this rather than replying by email, because this isn't just
to Peter)
.

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