Re: [ADVERT] Electrodeless Gold Plating solution
- From: "Peter W.. Rowe," <rec.crafts.jewelry@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sat, 01 Jul 2006 18:12:56 GMT
On Sat, 01 Jul 2006 10:42:51 -0700, in rec.crafts.jewelry
<bhill705@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
All of you (especially Peter) who have posted comments in this thread must
be true newsgroup gurus utilizing state-of-the-art newsgroup technology.
For the life of me, after searching all of the drop-down menus in Outlook
Express, I can't find any hint of something which might lead me to the
ability to view the headers of any posts in any newsgroup. Back when I was
using Thunderbird, I could view headers, but that program developed a mind
of its own, and I reluctantly returned to Outlook Express for emailing and
newsgroups. I know it sounds nutty for one to want the ability to read a
post with over 3500 lines, but hey, my life can be extremely boring, LOL.
To be perfectly honest, I would not read the entire post - just a cursory
glance or two would suit me just fine. As it stands now, I can't even get a
hint of the number of lines of which any posts are comprised.
Betty Vereen Hill
Swainsboro, GA
In outlook express. from the tool bar, pull down the "file" menu. Choose the
"properties" item on that list. It opens up a smaller window in which you see
the posting in it's raw form, including all message headers.
Outlook express defaults to showing you message size in kilobytes, which is 1024
characters, or usually something in the area of 15 to 20 lines of text. It
doesn't show small differences in size, so anything smaller than the size it
would then round up to showing as 2K (A K is a kilobyte), is shown as 1 K, that
being the minimum size shown, unless the message is completely empty. What
Outlook express lists about messages, in the message list view, is customizable.
Pull down the "view" menu, and choose the "columns" item. That lets you specify
which information to show about messages in the message list. "Lines" is one of
the last couple items on that list. You can specify which items to show, and
the column width for each item, in pixels.
The program I'm using, and perhaps others, is Forte inc's Agent news and mail
reader. It's got a great deal more aspects about it that can be customized,
which makes it both versatile, and confusing sometimes. It offers a few
abilities in message handling that allow me to manipulate the messages to the
group in the manner needed to turn incoming email messages back into outgoing
newsgroup messages., which is the main reason I use it. But there is another
too. Agent, unlike microsoft's products and AOL and others, conforms to the
still valid conventions that suggest newsgroup messages and email messages don't
need to be in HTML coding. For the vast majority of messages, plain text, or
ASCII text, is just fine. By avoding the use of HTML coding to fancy up the
formatting of messages, the resulting messages are MUICH MUCH smaller in size,
saving a lot of bandwidth and storage space. All news and mail readers can
read ASCII text, while not all can read HTML. Outlook express solves this by
allowing you, if you choose the option, to turn off HTML (which I recommend) for
outgoing messages, or to send messages in a dual format, which means a message
you send is sent in both forms, making it longer still, but easily read by
either type of program.
The strongest argument for not being able to read and display HTML coded email
and newsgroup messages is simply security. Email and news messages comprise one
of the most common routes by which virus infections enter a computer, doing all
sorts of mischief. Web pages can do it to, but you have to at least visit a
malicious or infected web page for that to be a possibility. With email and
news messages, anybody can send you anything, and you don't know what's there
till you at least view the message header or open the message to read it. HTML
encoding allows a message to be dynamically involved with your computer, since
HTML coding allows things like JAVA code to run. This means that just the act
of reading an HTML message opens a possibility for that message to be taking
actions you don't see. Most of the time, this capability is used for animating
things, making hyper links work, or whatnot. But it can also allow a message to
do all sorts of damage. Now, we're all presumably running virus scan software,
firewalls, and all sorts of other defenses to prevent such messages from doing
their dirty deeds. But with Agent, you simply have an easy way to prevent the
problem. With Outlook express, if you even open an email message, if it
contains code of any sort, it might be able to run itself. With Agent, you only
see a text message. Nothing runs. If the message contains anything other than
plain ascii text, which you can read, Agent will either be showing you the raw
text of the non-readable message, which will be a block of gibberish characters,
or it will show you an icon representing that block, showing you what type of
file has been sent along with the text message. You can then choose to open
that file or not. If you click an icon indicating an HTML message block, you
can view it, since Agent calls up whatever HTML aware program, like Word,
Internet explorer, or whatever you specify, to display the message. so you're
not unable to see these things. You just have to deliberately, after seeing the
message, decide to open that file, and are warned if it represents potential
risks.
The result of this is that although I, like most, have had my problems with
spam, spyware from web sites, and other things from the web, I've never had a
virus infection that came in an email message. At least not one that actually
caused an infection. The reason is simply that when such junk arrives, and it
does, I'm able to see it for what it is and just delete the message.
Anyway. That's the software I use. There are a number of other programs out
there that also offer more security that Outlook express. Several other posters
have offered their suggestions as well. Outlook Express, while easy to use,
tends to want to overthink what users want, and automates too much, taking away
your choices. And it's record for security is not that good, for the reasons
detailed above. If interested in Forte Agent, you can get "Free Agent", as the
name suggests, for free from the www.forteinc.com web site. Pay the
registration fee (twenty something dollars I think) and the registration code
number unlocks free agent to become the full fledged version. Or download free
agent and run it for a trial period as the full version if you like. Nothing to
loose. It WILL take you a little time to learn and get used to using,
especially the finer points of setting it up, and accessing things like graphics
and HTML files, which need you to specify which external program to call in to
help agent display the files. But other than that, it's a nice program. Or,
try reinstalling Thunderbird. Maybe you messed something up. It's gotten a
decent reputation in the short time it's been around, though for me, I still
prefer to shy away from a fully HTML aware email program...
cheers
Peter
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