Re: Licensing .. was - Re: Newbie and Extract Kits

Boy, are you guys ever living in the wrong country. George Jnr and arkane
laws!!

Here in NZ, we're allowed to brew whatever we like without a license. Beer,
wine and spirits so long as it's not for sale. I think it's relatively easy
for any semi-responsible person to obtain a license to sell as a micro
brewery provided they comply with the regulations.

The distillation allowance was because it was considered too difficult and
time consuming to police (couldn't be bothered)so they relaxed things some
years back.

The only social problem this has relaxed legislation has caused is the
apperance of the odd 'garage pub/club' in the rural areas but that was
mostly as a result of pressure from diligent drink-driving campaigns by the
police.

Mike

"Joel Sprague" <jsprague5@xxxxxxx> wrote in message
news:6CeYe.25071$UI.17980@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Yeah, I noticed same thing. They have the text of title 37 up on their
> website, and it even mentions the license, but the license
appliations/forms
> they ahve on their website are all related to commercial sales/brewing.
> I'll probably just call them or head over to their office and see what
they
> say.
>
> But yeah, maybe I'll just keep making wine and add "beer wine" to my list
of
> what I make. ;)
>
> Joel
>
> "steveb" <me@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:43s2j1dhfkgkfapqdrld72npmit7872fne@xxxxxxxxxx
> > On Tue, 20 Sep 2005 20:59:51 -0500, <jsprague5@xxxxxxx> wrote:
> >
> > >Oklahoma law actually doesn't mention beer making. Specifies wine and
> mead.
> > >So whether that means it's legal because it isn't deffined/restricted
or
> > >illegal for sam ereason, depends on your lawyer.
> >
> > Well you might struggle with this one. The relevant statute makes the
> > brewing of any alcoholic drink not expressly permitted by the act, an
> > offence. You could always call your beer *Malt Wine*, I suppose.
> >
> > Anyway, I got this from the AMA website, but I don't know how up to
> > date it is, so whatever you find out would be appreciated.
> >
> > /Quote
> >
> > Statute:
> > Oklahoma presently has no legislation legalizing the production of
> > beer in the home for personal or family use. However, Title 37 section
> > 505 provides for the legal home production of cider and wine. Oklahoma
> > statute 37-506(4) defines the term "Beer". Pursuant to 37-505 the
> > manufacture, sale, possession, etc. of any alcoholic beverage except
> > as provided for in the act is prohibited. Violation of 37-505 can
> > result in a 30 day suspension of a state alcohol license, and/or
> > $3,000 fine.
> >
> > Discussion:
> > Oklahoma state statute Title 37 section 505 provides that nothing
> > shall prevent the making of cider, or of wine, not to exceed 200
> > gallons in any one year pursuant to a license first obtained from the
> > Alcoholic Beverage Laws Enforcement (ABLE) Commission, by simple
> > fermentation and without distillation, if made solely for the use of
> > the maker, his family and guests.
> >
> > Several individuals in Oklahoma have attempted to introduce
> > legislation to allow for the production of beer in the home. These
> > efforts, while sincere, have had no effect on modifying the existing
> > law. To date we are aware of no enforcement action by state
> > authorities.
> >
> > The current feeling among the homebrewing community in Oklahoma
> > suggests a growing frustration with legislative reform in the area of
> > beer production in the home for personal or family use. However, the
> > recent influx of brew pubs in the state may aid efforts to amend
> > section 37-505 to include the production of beer in the home.
> >
> > /EndQuote
> >
> > I can't find ANY info on the ABLE site referring to a License for home
> > wine-making, btw. There is lots of licensing info, but it all apears
> > to be aimed at commercial enterprises.
> >
> > steveb
>
>


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