Re: Ident question "Pro Segovia" SS. Spain?

"Tony Vella" <tony.vella@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message news:RfOdnWqF6OzXIlzUnZ2dnUVZ_qfinZ2d@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
"Pedro" <pcm2000@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message news:gpsc1a$nsq$1@xxxxxxxxxxx
----- Original Message ----- From: "Tony Vella" <tony.vella@xxxxxxxxxx>
Newsgroups: rec.collecting.stamps.discuss
Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 22:49
Subject: Re: Ident question "Pro Segovia" SS. Spain?


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Wow! I'm full of questions today. As you can tell, I'm working on my
Spain. Here are a couple Souvenir sheets that I can't seem to find
listed. I have had them laying about for a few years and just don't
know what to do with them. I think they are cool. Any ideas as to
their proper place in the album?
Thanks!

Wolf-==-


http://www.southslope.net/~paradimes/spainss.jpg


Hello Wolf.
You may wish to reserve a small section for the Spanish Civil War at the end of your Spain collection. Over time you will find many a Scott-unlisted item to fit there. There were many "pro" issues at the time intended as charity for the pro-xxx; in this case, the population of Segovia (between Madrid and Valladolid). I have seen Barcelona, Valencia, Valladolid, .... If our new friend Pedro C. is reading this he might even have a Civil War catalogue that lists them -- can't remember the name of the book right now to save my life.
Hope this helps.
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Tony Vella
Ottawa, Ontario, Canada
http://www.amedialuz.ca/


Hello,
I've just checked 2009 and 2000 editions of Spanish Edifil catalog and
they do not list them. It is the first time I see those sheets. If possible
I'll ask a national expert when he comes from his holidays in a month or so.
They do not seem to be listed in the civil war years nor post-war years, nor
in the Beneficencia (Charity) section, so I assume they are really rare, or
not issued proofs.

Pedro


Hi Pedro,
The only PRO.xxx stamp I ever saw coming out of Andalucia was from Seville. It had Pro Sevilla overprinted in red diagonally (lower left to upper right) over a darkened effigy of the Macarena - almost like a wood-cut. I was wondering if you could please check in the Beneficencia section or your Civil War catalogue and see if that one is listed? I would love a scan of that particular one. Thanks in advance.
--
Tony Vella
Ottawa, Ontario, Canada



Hello Tony,
I couldn't find your stamp in my catalogs nor in my collection. However, I found some pro XXX from Andalucía in my collection.
They are from Cadiz, Granada, Sevilla and Córdoba. I have other "beneficencia" stamps from Melilla (Spanish city in north coast of Africa, not a colony), some "pro tuberculosos", some "hogar de huérfanos" and other several stamps form Barcelona of those years. I can upload scans of them at request. These stamps I have are not in very good shape, as they come from my father's collection, but may serve as examples. These days "XLI Spanish National Stamp Fair" is taking place in "Plaza Mayor" here in Madrid. I will do a visit on Sunday and see if I can find the "pro Sevilla" stamp you mention.

Here are the links of my stamps:
http://cjoint.com/?dvsmXCd3ze
http://cjoint.com/?dvsnDVYCzz
http://cjoint.com/?dvsn6TLJp2
http://cjoint.com/?dvsouiTuEU
http://cjoint.com/?dvsoTFp8ka
http://cjoint.com/?dvsphFhp24
http://cjoint.com/?dvspDjwSU4
http://cjoint.com/?dvsp7d3Xtw
http://cjoint.com/?dvsqCzgb2p
http://cjoint.com/?dvsq3Fmerr

regards,
Pedro

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