Re: Falklands Colony, was Re: Romanian History...

You say "that in time, Argentine may have by peaceable means achieve
its desire". Why should that happen? The inhabitants are of British
stock and do not want to be Argentines. It is that simple.

Tony

"malcolm" <malcolmhirst12@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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The Argentine claim to the Falklands is extremely dubious. It is as a
"descendant" of an early attempt by Spain to take possession of the
islands. IF ( and it is a very big if) any other country has a claim
on the Falklands it is Spain by prior occupation and most definitely
not Argentina, whose claim, and its attempt to enforce Spanish language
and education etc on a recalcitrant English speaking population ( and
the attempted forcible "arrest" of sections of the population when they
refused to cooperate ) descended into High Farce - or would have been
had it not been for the extreme discomfort of the aforesaid
inhabitants.
Unfortunately the whole episode is, as often, an example of an
unpopular despots attempt to divert attention from his own shortcomings
by a "foreign adventure" to unite the people, coupled with a
regrettable propensity for "macho" attitudes which often gets in the
way of good sense.
Without this senseless action, expensive in human lives, the
probability is that in time Argentina may have by peaceable means
achieved its desire - while now that possibility is by all practical
measures dead. As some US president once said "Jaw Jaw is preferable to
War War".War should always be a last not first resort.However that is
not to say that one should give in to intimidation.
Malcolm

A.E. Gelat wrote:
A few years ago, some nations in the UN General Assembly tried to condemn
the UK for keeping the Falkland Islands colony. This was obviously
supported by Argentina, which claimed them. The Falklands was a true
colony
in the legal sense, in that it was under the control of another state,
namely the UK. But what the UN failed to observe that all the
inhabitants
were of British stock, mostly Scottish. The population was about 1800,
and
they did not want to leave the mother country, being non-viable
separately.
The only non-Briton was an Argentinean subject that ran the airline
office
of the Argentine national airline, and it had one flight per week.
Obviously, that office could have been run by a Falklander, but the
Argentines thought that they had to maintain a minimal presence there in
that person's presence. The UN's effort failed, and the subsequent
invasion
by Argentina was repulsed by the British. The matter is in limbo at this
time.

Tony

<Tracy_Barber@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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On Sun, 16 Apr 2006 22:08:02 +0200, "Victor Manta"
<manvic_99spaam@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

As I have cited earlier, colonialism doesn't necessarily mean colons.
"Colonialism - Definition: the political control for peoples and
territories
by foreign state, whether accompanies by permanent settlement (settler
colonies) or not."

Interesting here... colons are usually associated with colonies,
colonization and so forth. Most of the countries that have been
assumed colonies have had "homeland" people living there. Taking the
whole of Africa, except Ethiopia (only for a short time by Italy) and
Liberia, each country has been a colony of one or another European
state. Each has had homeland people - whether govt., missionaries or
businessmen as "colons" - not to mention pastoral types, mining types
and so forth. Many homeland people were encouraged to go forth and
set up shop in these foreign lands.

Here are the WikiPedia versions of colonialism and imperialism:

Colonialism is the extension of a nation's sovereignty over territory
beyond its borders by the establishment of either settler colonies or
administrative dependencies in which indigenous populations are
directly ruled or displaced. Colonizers generally dominate the
resources, labor, and markets of the colonial territory and may also
impose socio-cultural, religious and linguistic structures on the
conquered population. The term also refers to a set of beliefs used to
legitimize or promote this system, especially the belief that the
mores of the colonizer are superior to those of the colonized. Though
colonialism is often used >>>> interchangeably with imperialism <<<<,
the latter is broader as it covers control exercised informally (via
influence) as well as formally.

*****

(My >>> emphasis <<<) I guess I believe that Romania was not directly
ruled from the Kremlin, but rather through a series of puppets on the
strings of the Russian Empire. At least that's how it seems on the
surface, without having lived there.

*****

Imperialism is a policy of extending control or authority over foreign
entities as a means of acquisition and/or maintenance of empires,
either through direct territorial conquest or settlement, or through
indirect methods of exerting control on the politics and/or economy of
other countries. The term is often used to describe the policy of a
country in maintaining and dominating over distant lands, regardless
of whether the country calls itself an empire.

So, in a sense, we are both right here. :) I still lean more towards
imperialism than colonization though.

OK, let's get back to stamps and maybe some politico issues
surrounding them!

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