Re: Identify coin in a different language

oly wrote:
On May 4, 12:06 pm, "Mr. Jaggers" <lugburzman[at]yahoo[dot]com> wrote:
Ian wrote:
oly wrote:
On May 4, 7:15 am, "Mr. Jaggers" <lugburzman[at]yahoo[dot]com>
wrote:
oly wrote:
On May 4, 4:18 am, Ian <I...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
GO ILLINI wrote:
Could you identify the coin described on this page:
http://adamsworld.name/mystery_coin.php
All info I have as well as pictures are on the page.
Writing (Front): LVD XVDG ER-ET.N.R.
Writing (Back): F(or E?)T LIL LILA
RE PF
I C H
Picture (Front): Left-facing lady
Picture (Back): Three flowers and sun
Metal: Very light-weight. Possibly Copper
Color: Like front/back 3, but more shiny. Lighting color was
changed in other photos to allow for focus.
Year: None printed
Edge of Coin: Circular, but not perfectly round. There is a
perfect printed circle, but the metal edge is crude.
I see that my collegues have already correctly identified your
item as being a `jeton'. That is, a throw away piece with no
intrinsic value in itself. It was manufactured in Germany at
Nuremburg ( possibly by Iohan Conrad Hoger (ICH) one of the
Nuremberg Guild Masters and circa late 1730 - early 1740) and
intended for use as either a counting piece by french merchants,
or as a gaming piece. The Nuremberg pieces of this era mimmicked
their french counterparts, which often had scenes and legends of
classical origin. This one has three lillies, which represent
the three `estates'. That is, The Church, the Nobility, and the
Commoners. Ian- Hide quoted text -
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Thanks for the meaning of the lillies. It would appear that the
sun (or the King) is nourishing the three estates.
When in reality he was nourishing his paramours in Le Petit
Trianon.

James- Hide quoted text -

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Well, got to say in Louis XV's defense - as he was the last
surviving male in the elder line of the Bourbon family, he was
forced into a very early marriage with a woman 13 years his
senior. Once he did his duty by his wife (they had several
children), one supposes that something "additional" was
inevitable. Even the Madame de Pompadour became more of a
procuress and less an actual mistress as they both aged.

oly
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"Apres moi, le deluge!!!"

`Fidelity' was very much a one way street for the French monarchy.
:)

I think that observation could be extended to other politicians, who
for the moment will remain nameless.

James- Hide quoted text -

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Well, Louis XVI (a grandson of lusty old Louis XV) was relatively
spotless on this account, although he suffered from a sensitive
physical problem that he did not get corrected until several years
into his marriage with Marie Antoinette.

I brought this up some months ago and promptly got my comeuppance from
another poster, who claimed it was not true. How are we ever going to
know - did he, or didn't he?

And look what the Frogs did - he didn't cheat on his wife and got his
head chopped-off!

There's a moral there somewhere that starts, "When in France..."

His brother Louis XVIII and their cousin Louis Phillipe were pretty
blameless in this area too. Of course, Louis Phillipe could barely
rub two sous together during his long years of exile.

Neither did brother Charles X have much of a clue about the feelings of the
French people. Tell me - did the French Revolution ever really end?

James


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