Re: Identify coin in a different language

oly wrote:
On May 4, 12:06 pm, "Mr. Jaggers" <lugburzman[at]yahoo[dot]com> wrote:
Ian wrote:
oly wrote:
On May 4, 7:15 am, "Mr. Jaggers" <lugburzman[at]yahoo[dot]com> wrote:
oly wrote:
On May 4, 4:18 am, Ian <I...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
GO ILLINI wrote:
Could you identify the coin described on this page:
http://adamsworld.name/mystery_coin.php
All info I have as well as pictures are on the page.
Writing (Front): LVD XVDG ER-ET.N.R.
Writing (Back): F(or E?)T LIL LILA
RE PF
I C H
Picture (Front): Left-facing lady
Picture (Back): Three flowers and sun
Metal: Very light-weight. Possibly Copper
Color: Like front/back 3, but more shiny. Lighting color was
changed in other photos to allow for focus.
Year: None printed
Edge of Coin: Circular, but not perfectly round. There is a
perfect printed circle, but the metal edge is crude.
I see that my collegues have already correctly identified your
item as being a `jeton'. That is, a throw away piece with no
intrinsic value in itself. It was manufactured in Germany at
Nuremburg ( possibly by Iohan Conrad Hoger (ICH) one of the
Nuremberg Guild Masters and circa late 1730 - early 1740) and
intended for use as either a counting piece by french merchants,
or as a gaming piece. The Nuremberg pieces of this era mimmicked
their french counterparts, which often had scenes and legends of
classical origin. This one has three lillies, which represent the
three `estates'. That is, The Church, the Nobility, and the
Commoners. Ian- Hide quoted text -
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Thanks for the meaning of the lillies. It would appear that the
sun (or the King) is nourishing the three estates.
When in reality he was nourishing his paramours in Le Petit Trianon.
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Well, got to say in Louis XV's defense - as he was the last surviving
male in the elder line of the Bourbon family, he was forced into a
very early marriage with a woman 13 years his senior. Once he did
his duty by his wife (they had several children), one supposes that
something "additional" was inevitable. Even the Madame de Pompadour
became more of a procuress and less an actual mistress as they both
aged.
oly
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"Apres moi, le deluge!!!"
`Fidelity' was very much a one way street for the French monarchy. :)
I think that observation could be extended to other politicians, who for the
moment will remain nameless.

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Well, Louis XVI (a grandson of lusty old Louis XV) was relatively
spotless on this account, although he suffered from a sensitive
physical problem that he did not get corrected until several years
into his marriage with Marie Antoinette.

And look what the Frogs did - he didn't cheat on his wife and got his
head chopped-off!

His brother Louis XVIII and their cousin Louis Phillipe were pretty
blameless in this area too. Of course, Louis Phillipe could barely
rub two sous together during his long years of exile.

oly

Louis XVI took it on the neck for the sins of the fathers :)

Stanislaus wasn't all that bad, but Louis Philippe won't go down in history as winning any popularity contests.

Ian
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