Re: The two Bobs and the fake Trade Dollar in fake PCGS slab on eBay: Ira's take on this matter


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On Apr 22, 10:58 am, "Bruce Remick" <rem...@xxxxxxx> wrote:
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On Apr 21, 7:44 pm, "Bruce Remick" <rem...@xxxxxxx> wrote:

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On Apr 21, 6:37 pm, "Mr. Jaggers" <lugburzman[at]yahoo[dot]com> wrote:

oly wrote:
On Apr 21, 3:27 pm, "Mr. Jaggers" <lugburzman[at]yahoo[dot]com>
wrote:
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I'm still trying to figure out where all those Teabaggers came
from
all of a sudden, with their posters of Hitler and Mussolini.
They
must have lived in some other country 2001-2009.

Both parties try to manipulate ignorance to varying degrees. The
Republicans happen to be much, much better at it.

Agreed on the first point. And as for the second point, so many
of
the people of that persuasion consume a steady daily diet of
radio
talk blowhards, some that I know of listen to six+ hours a day of
yelling about liberals and calling for their deaths, plus an hour
or
two on the teevee in the evening.

James

Sorry, but the Tea Parties and Partiers are O.K. I suspect had you
been a government pensioner back then, you would have supported
King
George III to the hilt.

There were indeed such people around, and when they got a whiff of
patriot
rhetoric, they took off for places like Canada.

No tea party or teapartier is OK in my book when he/she conjures up
images
of WWII dictators at a rally (the equivalent of Godwin's Law) and
declares
that all liberals be put to death (Limbaugh, Hannity, Beck, and
Coulter,
to
name just a few, have all planted that idea among the minds of their
fans).
Wait until you personally receive a death threat for nothing more
than
your
religious or political views. Think it doesn't happen in our Great
Land?
Think again. It does. I've been on the receiving end.

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Just remember how Dr. Sam. Johnson's 1755 Dictionary defined the word
"pension".

Many citizens who have deeply held views on the right now feel that
Prince Obango and Pelosi are out to get them.

I have spent my adult life, sad to say, inside the government. It is
not worth 1/20th of what the citizens are forced to pay.

oly
________________

Don't forget that not all of us former govt "lifers" feel that way.
During
my 35 years, I'd say the citizens got their money's worth and more
from
the
folks I worked with. If some of those middle class tax protesters
would
take a closer look at what they actually pay the Fed each year in
income
taxes, they might be surprised that regardless of their 25-28% tax
bracket,
many likely pay less that half of that. With my own 28% bracket, I
actually owed 10.5% of my total income in federal taxes, using the
standard
deduction. Now as for an opinion about how the Fed uses that money we
send
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If the government pays you three dollars for being one of its "labor-
fakers" and then takes back one dollar, that still doesn't make you
into a productive tax-payer. Beginning and end of story, and we've
been through all of this on another thread. You're still a fraud,
albeit retired, just like everybody inside of government.

And much better Hitler than Mao.
__________________________________

You obviously still have a guilty conscience over your apparent minimal
contribution as a former government employee, so you paint everyone else
who
works for the federal govt with your biased brush. Not the case here. I
still have a few buddies from the military who would take issue with
your
"fraud" claim.

And if the Fed takes 33% of your $3.00, you're either wealthy or you
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When did you have the mirrors removed in your home, Bruce??? You're
in such denial that obviously you wouldn't be able to look in one.
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Heh. This shows you still prefer to change the subject and spout childish
insults when challenged. I should have expected it. So now I assume you're
not only ashamed of your own govt service but also embarrassed that you've
apparently been paying one third of your income to Uncle Sam. Or should I
have detected a bit of exaggeration for effect?

Did you find some error in my tax bracket comment that you'd care to
correct? Or am I in denial by not believing that everybody who works for
the government is a fraud? I notice you avoided any specifics but for some
reason still chose to reply with that mirror and denial stuff. Is your
problem with me that I just can't seem to accept and agree with your
views?
You're getting easier to predict and are becoming increasingly out of
touch
with your "expert" comments and forecasts. That's my view.- Hide quoted
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You mentioned the marginal tax rate of 28% and my comment generally
approximated that, though of course that's slightly inaccurate.

If I had said that "If the government pays you four dollars for your
government "job" and then they take back one dollar - that might be
more accurate - but it still doesn't change the conclusion that you
were never a productive taxpayer.
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< I guess I don't understand your definition of a "productive" taxpayer.
Who would be an example of a productive tax payer? Are you referring to
everyone who hasn't or doesn't work for the federal (or local?) government?
Anyone else? I'd be interested if you'd elaborate.
_____________

You weren't and I'm not either. We are tax eaters, not tax payers.

Tax eaters are very cavalier about the real work that the bulk of tax
payers do to pay the taxes. You are just another example.
_________________

< Assuming you don't know what I did, how would my work for the government
have been less "real" or significant to society than that of my neighbor who
was, say, a car salesman? Is the work of a soldier less "real" than that
of an artist because he or she gets a government paycheck?






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