Re: History repeats when it comes to $1 coin


"Mr. Jaggers" <lugburzman[at]yahoo[dot]com> wrote in message
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Bruce Remick wrote:
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On Aug 27, 12:54 am, "Mr. Jaggers" <lugburzman[at]yahoo[dot]com>
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sgt23 wrote:
On Aug 26, 3:32 am, "Mr. Jaggers" <lugburzman[at]yahoo[dot]com>
wrote:
sgt23 wrote:
On Aug 25, 5:56 pm, "Mr. Jaggers" <lugburzman[at]yahoo[dot]com>
wrote:
Voltronicus wrote:
On Aug 23, 9:17 am, "Mr. Jaggers" <lugburzman[at]yahoo[dot]com>
wrote:

Show me a Senator from either party whose pockets are not
getting lined by a special interest group,

Well, of course, there are the dead ones.
They tend to be extremely low key in their bribe seeking,
although I suppose there are those with enough cupidity left to
rise up from the grave at the mention of a "campaign
contribution".

The last time I heard the word "cupidity" used I was a high
school sophomore in Latin II class. It ranks right up there with
"impecunious", "calumny", and "antepenult." Thanks for the
memories!

James the Nostalgic

Was your teacher from France, learned the language "french" in
college, or was she one of them people who went to France on
vacation. When she came back, she thought because she had learned
a few words of french she could come back and teach it. I think
the French teacher I had in Jr. high was of the latter.

Interesting that you automatically assumed it was a "she." My
teacher was from the U.S. and got her training at university. I had
her for both two years of Latin and two years of French, and she
was one of the most thorough teachers I ever had. She is the one,
more than any other, who inspired me to become a French teacher
myself, a profession I pursued for 33 years. She's now into her
80s, and we still correspond twice a year. She's a keeper.

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I guess the educators really don't care anymore. The reason I said
she is that I've only known french teachers to be females. Also
speaking of how old teachers are, I think my Kindergarten teacher
would probably in her 80s now.

My K teacher is still alive at 95. Must have been something in the
Lincoln School water. Come to think of it, it did taste pretty nasty.

Your claim that "educators really don't care anymore" is gratuitous
and totally without reliable evidence to support it.

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Maybe they don't have time to care anymore. Maybe we should go back to
the old ways of learning. Where you had to repeated everything until
you got it right. I remember seeing a writing journal on antique
roadshow. Where the kids use to be required to repeat everything until
it was perfect. The handwriting and grammar was much better than now.
Now days they're are too many kids in one class room, and the teachers
are required to rush everything.They pretty much no room for reaching
at too the students who really want to learn. I over heard my teachers
in high school complain about this numerous time, about there is just
not enough time too teach. Plus now the schools don't show the student
how to study. My college professor for English said that when a lot of
these kids come into college, they do not know how to study for
test.Many students are having to relearn now to learn if that makes
any sense. I just wonder how bad the education system will be 10 more
years from now?
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You had a college professor for English ?? Was he or she a relative
?? Did you ever have to write a paper that was graded for spelling,
grammar, etc. ??

In my opinion, the problem educators would have today in trying to
teach younger kids the "old way" would be to overcome the calculators
and computers that many kids believe are shortcuts that can help them
get by without studying math, spelling, history, language,
penmanship, etc. Internet access on your Iphone will guide you
through life's obstacles. You even can communicate via grunts and text
messages with no need to
concentrate on speech, grammar or spelling. Google and Wikipedia are
your friends. The rest are on Facebook.

Even though seven years separate me from my teaching days, I do not buy
into the gloomy portrait you paint of today's kids. They respond in
predictable ways to the environment they find themselves in, as kids have
done for tens of thousand of years. They are educable, sometimes in spite
of the best efforts of educators.

Unfortunately, one of sgt's observations has the ring of truth about it:
"maybe they don't have time to care." In 33 years I weathered, I believe,
six "education improvement" plans, which consisted of generating mountains
of paperwork, each plan requiring a more voluminous mountain. All of
these plans were unfunded, and the infrastructure promised to help
implement them never materialized. Thus the paperwork, which occupied
countless hours of time, both within and without the school day,
disappeared, unexamined and forgotten, into file cabinets, only to see the
light of day when it was thrown away to make room for the next plan. The
ultimate result of each round of "plans" was to take good teachers'
attention and energy away from what they should be doing - teaching -
while failing to improve the ones who needed it the most.

School is a subset of society. It cannot and will not improve
significantly without a corresponding improvement in the host society.
The host society, after all, is the source of all the personnel working in
the school system, from lunch room aide to superintendent.

James the Pedantic

In my/our school days in the 1950's, kids who couldn't or wouldn't learn in
school weren't force-fed like today's "No Child Left Behind" kids into
somehow being awarded a high school diploma when they could barely read and
write at a fourth grade level. Those kids failed back then. If they cared
enough to repeat the subject(s) they failed, they did. Otherwise, many
stopped kidding themselves academically and ended up pursuing a manual trade
or entering military service. There wasn't as much of a "failure" stigma
back in the 1950's for those who chose to be bricklayers and mechanics
instead of mathematicians. Ironically, those who weren't quite smart enough
to get into the college they wanted ended up entering community colleges
with a teaching career in mind.

I was partially exaggerating in my rant about kids and computers. The one
difference that stands out in my mind between teaching methods now and then
is the way many of today's teachers try to show the relevance of subjects
like algebra and geometry to actual situations likely to be encountered in
life. I recall the trouble I had trying to figure out who or why anyone
would need to use the quadratic equation on the job, because the teacher
never explained how algebra or geometry could be used to solve real
problems.




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