Re: 1816 and 1822 Large Cents (better dates) at drastically reduced pricing!


"Ukraina Dvi" <sibirskmoneta@xxxxxxx> wrote in message
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"Ira" <iras4@xxxxxxx> wrote in message news:382a4287-b740-430e-af97-
i believe market grading definitely would come into play here. I would
be quite amazed if a grade of MS-61/2 BN was not achieved. Yet as we
both know, the coin is what it is. At $575 for a real nice clean
original surfaced piece, I believe this to be an outstanding value.

Ira

Yeah, I like it, even if Bruce sees a rub, and there probably is one on
the high point of the hair, but it is an attractive piece with lovely
chocolate toning, and original mint bloom peaking through the chocolate.
I just wish this had come along before I blew all the money I did this
month, rare Legal Tender and National Banknotes, then a Queen Mary Ryal
from Scotland, an 1880 Half Dollar in PF-62 etc etc. Now if I can get
that hoard of Nationals sold, then I have a heck of a lot more spending
dough. Oh gees, and Triton XII or whatever is coming in January, and
there goes more dough.

I don't mean at all to suggest it's not a beauty. It would be a nice
upgrade to my 1816 by far. My point is that the MS grade seems to be
assigned too liberally when it comes to especially attractive and well
preserved early coppers. Rub on the high points is overlooked if the rest
of the coin is exceptional.

PCGS and NGC can have all the proprietary grading standards and motives
they want. I may have difficulty telling an MS62 brown cent from an MS63,
but I believe I can tell a technical UNC large cent when I see one -- 1806
or 1856 -- especially when the accepted grading guides specify no trace of
wear. Rub on the high points of a design has always meant slight wear to
me.

Bruce


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