Re: Ebay, the ANA, and greedy dealers are destroying the hobby

Just to correct a couple points,

Bill Gates purchased DOS from a developer who Bill Gates worked with
in New Mexico and proceeded to refine it for IBM. IBM used a
specially designed basic chip as part of it's 8086 and 8088 machines,
so IBM's DOS/OS as refined by MIcrosoft, would not run on generic
processors.
Apple Used a Motorola CPU chip in it's first few generation of
computers, the same CPU chip that HP used in it's MPE3000 and 9000
famliy of computers. This was because WOZ worked at HP's R&D center
in Palo Alto. And didn't leave the company until He and his new idea
was rejected by HP. The primary reason for the rejection was the
feeling at HP that the PC market would not overtake the Multitasker
CPUs for 20-30 years and the projected sales presented by WOZ was only
$20 million over a 5-year period, not enough for HP, they were getting
up to $20 Million a year from PepsiCo alone in support of the
computers they had placed in Pepsico's Primary Company's.

In the deal with IBM, Microsoft retained rights to the original
Purchased OS which became the product that Microsoft marketed to all
the rest of the market place in those early years. Most of the PC
inventor's in Silicon Valley didn't have a processor chip that would
run Microsoft's DOS and stuck with their own basic O/S. That worked
until enough parts became availible on the third-party market to build
a IBM compatible system, except those machine wuld NOT run IBM/DOS, so
the market for Microsoft's DOS grew by leaps and bounds. It may
interest you to know that IBM build NONE of their XT machines, they
were all built by a Teledyne Company named Teledyne MEC in MT View,
CA. And that Commodore, Atari, TI, Radio SHack, Packard Bell all built
MS/DOS machines, mostly marketed overseas. Packard Bell was, of
course, built overseas and sold in the US.

Apple, In it's need to regain market, conceived and designed the MAC,
and CONTRACTED MIcrosoft to develop the GUI O/S that made the MAC so
successful.
However, as with IBM and DOS, Microsoft retained developer's rights
and was soon producing WINDOWS for IBM and generic machines.
You might recall the Microsoft lost a law suit that Apple filed over
the GUI O/S. In the settlement, each company was ordered to pay their
own lawyers, and Microsoft was ordered to pay Apple $200 within 30
days.
Yes, $200.

SO it helps to have been there....




On Sun, 7 Oct 2007 20:44:56 -0700, "Robert Dibbell"
<bobanddeedibbell@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

To be considered a monopoly, there has to be NO other competition. Look up the word in the dictionary.

What Microsoft has done is to set a standard for all computer operating systems. That is, except for Apple. All other computer companies that had their own (Commodore, Osborne, TI, Radio Shack, Cromemco, and probably a dozen others that came and went in the early 1980's) either switched to DOS or they died.

Apple was the first company to develop the Graphical User Interface which was more user friendly than the cryptic DOC commands such as the one that used the PIP command to perform file operations. Microsoft soon followed with their version of the GUI which was called Windows. And there is no truth to the apocryphal story about a young geek who went to see Steve Jobs about an idea that he had for a GUI program. The story continues that Steve Jobs kicked him out of his office as he was already developing such a system. The geek turns out to be a young Bill Gates.

Apple is still in very deep competition with Microsoft, but at the same time they have recognized that Microsoft has also developed a decent operating system. That's why their OS-X will run Windows.

And I repeat, without such a standard, we wouldn't have the growth in the personal computer industry that we see today.

Bob
"zeek" <DHollifield2@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message news:47097145$0$15376$4c368faf@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
"Microsoft, on the other hand, is approaching a
monopoly."
Approaching?

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