Re: Bad Bookseller Experience: "Texas Bookseller"

michael adams wrote: 
"Some Guy" <someguy@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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michael adams wrote:

Not to be snarky or anything, but didn't you plonk me?  Because your
plonk button seems to be sticking.



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Why don't you report me to the head of Usenet, if you're so worried? 

Who says I'm worried.

Tell him I changed my mind, and I'm not playing by the rules.

Did you not read the story of the Boy Who Cried Wolf? When you claim you're killfiling someone and then you don't, people stop believing you when you do it.

Maybe he'll refund you your subscription. 

Are you trying to get rid of me, Michael?  Shame, shame.

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so I'm not sure what criteria you are using as the
basis for your indictment.



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I only use one criterion myself.

Everything posted on Usenet for purely financial gain, is spam. 

That's an extraordinarily idiosyncratic definition.

The point being, that it's people posting for purely financial gain
who have every incentive to make as most use of a free resource as
is possible. There is no sound economic reason for them to stop,
until the medium is totally overwhelmed. And ruined for everybody.

I don't know about you, pookie, but I've only bought one thing off Usenet in 10 years, so I wouldn't call that an extraordinarily successful medium. Then, too, there's the fact that Usenet is supposed to be a communication medium, and there's nothing wrong with those messages being commercial if they follow the normal rules, e.g. they are confined to newsgroups whose purpose is to provide such a meeting place for buyers and sellers.

So really, it only gets ruined when overaggressive sellers violate those rules and push commerical messages into non-commercial groups; you can include religious and political zealots in that category as they are also selling something. Thus, the issue is not how to keep these people off Usenet, which isn't really a village common that everyone grazes until it's barren; it's how to keep them off the lawns with the little fences around them. Tactics do exist to deal with these things, and they have varying success rates.

If other people want to classify crossposted nonsense from loonies
as spam as well, then that's fine by me.

I'm tempted to use the "birds of a feather" phrase, but I fear it would fly over your head.

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"Some Guy" <someguy@xxxxxxxxxxx> here, happens to be a bookseller
who sells stock through numerous listing sites including ABE and
Amazon.

I am? And your proof of this is...? 


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Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2005 18:19:35 -0700
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While there are certainly some unscrupulous sellers out there, do
realize that sometimes a listing error isn't the dealer's fault,
it's the service.  Alibris, for example, used to puke if you
tried to do more than 1 upload a day, with the result that sometimes
deletions did not get through (or additions for that matter).
They've been better of late, but I still do have the occasional
problem with all three services where we list books (ABE, Alibris,
and Amazon).

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I see you are still asking to have egg splattered all over your face by not asking questions before making declarative statements.

Three services anyway, which is sufficient to distinguish you from
the mere dabblers.


Your theory fails for 2 reasons:

A. Someone who only listed 1 book on three services would still be a dabbler;

B. You'll notice the last sentence does not say "I" but "we." There's a reason for that. You see, I am not a bookseller, but my girlfriend is. She owns the business, she owns the stock, she processes orders, she packs them, she gets the money, etc. All I do is assist and adivse, which mostly consists of resolving computer problems like failed uploads. Hence the "we."

Do you feel better now, Michael, or are the paranoia voices in your head still going off?
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