Re: Here's a Story You Will Never See On Fox News


"Shortwave Sportfishing" <onetwothree@xxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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> On Mon, 19 Dec 2005 21:08:05 GMT, "Doug Kanter"
> <ancientangler@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
>>
>>"Shortwave Sportfishing" <onetwothree@xxxxxxxx> wrote in message
>>news:mj6eq1p72occbcdkk9j1ep3pdlpfq8ha29@xxxxxxxxxx
>>> On Mon, 19 Dec 2005 15:28:45 -0500, DSK <dsk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>
>>>>>>And it has nothing to do with political bias.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/4501646.stm
>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>JohnH wrote:
>>>>> You may be right, but I think you lean left:
>>>>
>>>>You "think" anybody who doesn't drool themselves to sleep at
>>>>night over a picture of President Bush holding hands with
>>>>Jesus is leaning to the left.
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,150663,00.html
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Interesting article, thanks for the link... definitely gets
>>>>the point across about the health issues... but was this
>>>>covered on their TV news? Or does this further prove my
>>>>point that the best info is to be had by *reading*?
>>>
>>> Funny you should mention this Doug. The other day, I was commenting on
>>> an image on a photography group I have frequented for a long time and
>>> used some imagery from mythology, in particular Campbell's "Thousand
>>> Faces" to make my point. Nobody knew the reference or ever understood
>>> it for that matter.
>>>
>>> I have noticed more and more that the broad based reading you would
>>> think "artists" would be doing isn't being done and that if you make a
>>> literary reference, it's usually met with stone silence - unless the
>>> reader is around my age (60 +/-).
>>>
>>> I have often thought that one reason that we have the political
>>> problems we have is that not enough people are well read enough or
>>> spend their time reading that which is understandable to them, rather
>>> than stretching their imaginations and intellects to at least try and
>>> attain another level of enlightenment.
>>>
>>> Later,
>>>
>>> Tom
>>
>>I wonder if what you're talking about has been caused, in part, by the
>>internet, and the ease of plagiarising such things as written material for
>>college assignments.
>>
>>Two years ago, a friend of mine taught a college course in research
>>methods
>>at SUNY Binghamton. The school apparently has a system in place for
>>spotting
>>plagiarized writing by the students, who must submit their work as
>>computer
>>documents. My friend found that 5 out of 20 of the seniors in the course
>>had
>>swiped some or all of their writing off the web. And, their bibliographies
>>listed books which did not exist in the school's library. Sort of
>>interesting, considering it was a course in research methods.
>>
>>To make matters worse, a few of the students' work was unintelligible -
>>the
>>kids could not write to save their lives. How they got past 15-20
>>professors
>>in years 1 through 3 was a complete mystery.
>>
>>Anyway, some of these people never cracked a book.
>
> I can believe it. Locally, we have a pretty good technical college,
> but all the good professors are leaving or retiring. The new ones
> they are being replaced with are results of the 80's era educational
> process and are marginal. When I sub for the math instructors, I'm
> constantly amazed at how little information they are imparting to
> their students - it's almost as if they are teaching by rote or, worse
> yet, don't understand the material they are presenting.
>
> Not to brag, but I had a recent week long term sub assignment and the
> kids were begging the administration for a new math teacher - me. I
> know the material inside out and can present it properly and actually
> answer questions about the mysteries they face.
>
> I don't know that all means, but it's got to be significant in some
> way.

Your students are not alone in their desire. Last year, my son and some of
his AP math class pals decided that the teacher was awful, compared to those
they'd had in the past. These kids would stay after school for extra help,
and the teacher was unable to explain things any better than during the
class. So, they created a petition to bring to the principal. The principal
wasn't too keen on that method of changing things, but even so, a couple of
days later, it was as if somebody had stuck new batteries into that teacher.


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