Re: Wednesday's shooting of airline passenger...


"Harry Krause" <harry.krause@xxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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> Doug Kanter wrote:
>> "Harry Krause" <harry.krause@xxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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>>> Bill McKee wrote:
>>>> "Harry Krause" <harry.krause@xxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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>>>>> ...by the sky marshals may turn out to be a horrific mistake on their
>>>>> part.
>>>>>
>>>>> Too many witnesses are contradicting the marshals' description of the
>>>>> deceased's on-board behavior.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> BS. The guy was bi-polar. In a manic stage, and was probably suicide
>>>> by cop/sky marshal. We will probably see more of this, as the sky
>>>> marshal has less time to make a decision. If a guy says he has a bomb
>>>> and reaches into his duffle, I say shoot fast and true. It may be a
>>>> mistake, but I would rather the Suicide by Cop, than have the real bomb
>>>> go off, because of a wait time.
>>> Yes, several of the fellow's survivors say he suffered from bipolar
>>> disorder, and there have been reports he was "off" his mood stabilizers.
>>> But we don't know the latter for fact, do we?
>>>
>>> You haven't a clue as to his state of mind before or during the
>>> shooting, and for you to claim the fellow wanted to die via cop suicide
>>> is absurd.
>>>
>>> Something happened, we don't know what for sure, beyond the shooting.
>>> Witnesses from the plane are contradicting the sky cops.
>>>
>>> We've had enough examples of cops killing by mistake. I am not saying
>>> this case is an example of that. But it could be, and that is what my
>>> post stated.
>>
>> Harry, no matter what, it's tragic. But, I think sky marshalls have to
>> base fast decisions on outward appearances. The guy didn't stop, drop his
>> belongings and show his hands when they told him to. IIRC, he was running
>> into the building. What would you have done? Let him keep going toward a
>> crowd of people just to see if he actually had a bomb or maybe a weapon?
>> Let him detonate something on the walkway thing that's 20-50 feet from a
>> wing filled with jet fuel?
>
> I'd like to know how anyone thought he could sneak a bomb on board a
> US-flag airliner on a flight boarding in south Florida. Remember, the guy
> had arrived earlier on a different flight from Quito, Ecuador. Ecuador. As
> in heavy-duty carry on bag examination for drugs.
>
> The last time I flew, every passenger and every passenger's luggage was
> carefully scrutinized. Everyone's shoes were examined. Every piece of
> carry-on luggage was viewed, and all bags were opened. My wife flies
> around the country frequently, and she and everyone else on every flight
> is subjected to the same sorts of searches.
>
> So this fellow gets on a plane at a major US airport, one known to be used
> by drug carriers, after going through security, and the sky marshals think
> they hear him say he has a bomb, and as he runs off the plane onto the
> jetway, they fire five shots at him? What would they do if when confronted
> another guy pulls out his wallet? Will they shoot him, too? That happened,
> you know. In NYC.
>
> Well, I am sure there will be an investigation. I hope it is an honest
> one.
>
>

And in October, when we flew SFO to Rome, Italy via Cincinnati, I reached
into the carryon backpack when we having lunch in Cincinnati, inside the
security area, and I found the 4" folding knife that lives in the pack for
picnics. Since we did not have to exit the security area, I finished the
flight to Rome with a 4" knife aboard. And you may not get aboard with
drugs, but bombs may not be as highly search for. And when we flew out of
Quito this year, there was no major search of carryon for drugs. Was no
more search than any US airport, maybe less. Run the carryon through the
x-ray machine.


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