Re: Taliban downs two US choppers


"Harry Krause" <harry.krause@xxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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> NOYB wrote:
>> "Harry Krause" <harry.krause@xxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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>>> Doug Kanter wrote:
>>>> "NOYB" <noyb@xxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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>>>>
>>>>>> OK....let me get two things straight:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 1) A Muslim person in Milwaukee cannot form opinions without help
>>>>>> from someone in a bad country.
>>>>> He can form an opinion, but what can he do about it without money,
>>>>> funding, and other support from other like-minded individuals halfway
>>>>> around the globe.
>>>> Explosives do not cost a fortune. Any of us could come up with enough
>>>> cash for a suicide bombing.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> The Patriot Act is terrific in ensuring that hate groups (Islamic,
>>>>> white supremacist, or otherwise) can no longer fundraise and organize
>>>>> with impunity.
>>>> A lone bomber does not need funding or organization of any kind. He can
>>>> learn anything he needs via email, encrypted in ways that even the NSA
>>>> will have difficulty with. Incidentally, the NSA has an enormous
>>>> backlog of communications to sift through.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>> 2) That person in Milwaukee may have a job, but the money he makes is
>>>>>> different than money which might be given to him by a bad person from
>>>>>> another country, and cannot be used to buy explosives.
>>>>> Buy them from whom? If it were so easy for radical Islamic terrorists
>>>>> to do in the USA what they're doing in Iraq and Israel, they'd be
>>>>> doing it already.
>>>> What a silly question. A bomber could build a device using supplies
>>>> obtained legally at any well stocked gun shop. It would be crude
>>>> compared to the stuff being used in the Middle East, but he could still
>>>> raise hell on a train or bus.
>>>
>>> Is NOYB maintaining it is difficult to obtain or home-manfucture enough
>>> explosives to take down a huge building or blow up a subway train in
>>> this country?
>>>
>>> Hmmmm.
>>>
>>> Let's see. Explosive gunpowder.
>>>
>>> We need:
>>>
>>> * Saltpeter (Niter)
>>> * Sulfur
>>> * Charcoal or Sugar
>>> * Water
>>>
>>> The ratio is 75% saltpeter, 15% sulfur, 10 per cent charcoal.
>>>
>>> Carefully and separately grind the three ingredients and mix them
>>> together to make what is known as serpentine. Add a bit of water to
>>> reduce dusting and hazard and make a slurry.
>>> Force the slurry through a screen to make pellets and allow pellets to
>>> dry.
>>>
>>> Even a dentist could mix up this brew.
>>
>> Do you have any idea how much gunpowder you'd have to sneak on to a bus
>> to blow up the bus, and ensure that you were killed in the
>> process...rather than just left severely maimed?
>>
>> And if you're a Middle Eastern-looking dude, there's the little problem
>> of trying to light the fuse on a crowded bus while preventing some
>> suspicious individual who has been eyeing you all along from stomping
>> your head in the minute you take out the lighter.
>
> Oh, please, you're missing the point entirely. It can be done, and easily.
>
> Timothy McVeigh blew up a huge federal office building with homebrew
> explosives. Pull up in your van next to a packed bus in rush hour, and
> ka-boom. Don't be so damned naive.
>
> Know a bit more about chemistry? You should. Try this in your dental lab:
>
> Get yourself cyclotrimethylene-trinitramine (C3H6N6O6), commonly called
> RDX (for "research development explosive"). The additive material is made
> up of polyisobutylene, the binder, and di(2-ethylhexyl) sebacate, the
> plasticizer (the element that makes the material malleable). It also
> contains a small amount of motor oil.
>
> Take RDX in powder form and mix it with water to form a slurry. Add the
> binder material, dissolved in a solvent, and mix the materials with an
> agitator. Remove the solvent through distillation, and remove the water
> through drying and filtering. The result is a relatively stable, solid
> explosive with a consistency similar to modelling clay.
>
> An electrical detonator or blasting cap will set it off.
>
> Any dentist could do this.
>
> Oh, and this formula is no secret. It's available on "How Stuff Works."
>
> Enjoy your naivete.

Perhaps while I'm in Home Depot picking up those ingredients, they'll have
some weapons grade uranium available too, eh?



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