Re: Alito

On Mon, 31 Oct 2005 22:07:25 GMT, "NOYB" <noyb@xxxxxxxx> wrote:

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>"jps" <trash@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
>news:MPG.1dd032af96030d8c989a38@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> In article <g5w9f.3895$AS6.1463@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>,
>> noyb@xxxxxxxx says...
>>>
>>> "jps" <trash@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
>>> news:MPG.1dd020a8f5d97735989a33@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> > In article <qFu9f.2882$m81.391@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>,
>>> > noyb@xxxxxxxx says...
>>> >>
>>> >> "jps" <trash@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
>>> >> >> No, not the husband. But the dad (in the case of an extra-marital
>>> >> >> affair)should have the right.
>>> >> >
>>> >> > Yeeoooooweeee!!!!
>>> >> >
>>> >> > The tennis pro can force your wife to have his child.
>>> >>
>>> >> Not "force".
>>> >>
>>> >> But, yes, he should have a say if she was carrying his baby.
>>> >> Fortunately
>>> >> for me, my wife doesn't play tennis. Does yours?
>>> >
>>> > Excuse me but you're parsing. I asked if the husband in a wife's
>>> > extramarital affair should have the right to force the wife to take the
>>> > pregnancy to full term.
>>> >
>>> > You said, no but the male partner "should have the right."
>>> >
>>> > What's not forced about that if it's against her will?
>>>
>>>
>>> ...should have the right *to have a say in the matter*. In other words,
>>> he
>>> should be informed. Why? Because then the dad would know what kind of a
>>> selfish bitch he'd be consorting with if she aborted his baby without his
>>> consent.
>>>
>>> But there's no way to "force" the mom to have the kid.
>>
>> You must be kidding...
>>
>> You don't think a person can be compelled by the law to have a child?
>>
>>
>>> > Further, I'd like to understand how a family values guy like yourself
>>> > would explain to your current family about the presence of a child in
>>> > your family with a different father.
>>>
>>> No explanation necessary other than this:
>>> Your *** mom screwed the tennis pro and is having his kid. That's what
>>> broke our family apart.
>>
>> Wow, so much for compassion. Allow me to offer you this little quip:
>>
>> The Lord said: Because these people draw near with their mouths and
>> honor me with their lips, while their hearts are far from me, and their
>> worship of me is a human commandment learned by rote;
>>
>> If you are a Christian, then you may consider forgiveness.
>>
>>> > Then you can explain it to your mom and dad, mother and father-in-law,
>>> > aunts and uncles, cousins, brothers and sisters. Perhaps to the church
>>> > newsletter.
>>>
>>> If my wife cheated on me, we'd get a divorce. And everyone of those
>>> people
>>> would know the exact "why" of it anyhow.
>>
>> Let's just assume for a moment that you were able to work through it
>> and, for the sake of your other children's welfare and the potential you
>> could at some point in the future love and trust her again, does the
>> tennis pro still have a say?
>
>He should still be informed. What "rights" he has at that point is up to
>the courts to decide.
>
>>
>>> > It's hard to imagine how this doesn't result in some very destructive
>>> > parental modeling and family structure collapse.
>>>
>>> The family structure collapses at the point of the affair...not from
>>> whether
>>> or not the boyfriend has a say in the life of the unborn child.
>>
>> Boyfriend? Who said anything about a boyfriend. Perhaps it was a
>> mistake in judgement that led her into an unfortunate circumstance.
>
>Mistake in judgement? Mistakes are things that happen on accident. Unless
>she slipped while volleying during a doubles match, and his *** accidently
>entered her vagina, it's not an accident.
>
>
>You
>> don't love this woman enough to find forgiveness in your heart?
>
>Not for infidelity. Marriage is about trust. Without trust, there isn't a
>marriage.
>
>
>>
>> Would you really dismantle your family for a sin of the flesh?
>
>Absolutely. In fact, it's probably the only thing that could ever get me to
>divorce.
>
>>
>>> > Not to mention that your wife may discard you completely for supporting
>>> > the tennis pro's rights.
>>>
>>> Who cares, if she's an adulterous ***?
>>
>> So, you just abandon your family because your wife screwed up (so to
>> speak)?
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>Asked and answered.
>
>
>>
>> You've got much deeper thinking to do before you can talk intelligently
>> about abortion.
>
>
>No, really I don't.
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>
>>
>> I'd suggest a fishing trip where your sole purpose is to search your
>> soul for some real answers.
>
>I don't need to think about the topic of abortion. My wife and I had a
>miscarriage between my first and second sons. At 8 weeks, we saw a beating
>heart...and we saw the *life* growing inside her. At 13 weeks, the heart
>had stopped...and we realized that there was no longer a baby alive inside
>her. At that very moment, I knew all that I needed to know about when life
>begins.
>
>
>
You make a great point there. My daughter miscarried after the second child. It
was a very sad experience for all of us, but especially for her. I wonder what
her reaction would have been if her husband had adopted Harry's attitude (and
that of others) and said, "No sweat, it was just a fetus."

--
John H.
On the 'PocoLoco' out of Deale, MD
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