Re: Exceptional Move




Skipper wrote:
> chuckgould.chuck@xxxxxxxxx wrote:
>
> > As a conservative with an assumed knowledge of history, do you endorse
> > McCarthy's approach to "national security" in the 50's?
>
> Getting back on topic, care to discuss the following:
>
> BTW, care to quantify your earlier position that one *must* have
> $500,000 Nordhavn or better to safely and comfortably cruise Alaska to
> the Cortez and back? We'd really like to see you detail why vessels
> selling for under $200,000 cannot accomplish that task. And finally, do
> you think such a voyage is better handled by power or sail?
>
> --
> Skipper


Considering that I have never said that, there is nothing to discuss.

I did point out that the reason you have been unable for 5 years or
more to find a 50-foot boat, in decent condition, that meets the
standards *you* set for a vessel is that they are typically selling for
far more than your $160,000 budget. I offered a site where some lists
of such vessels, (typically priced from $375-700k or more), were
available for viewing.

Can you do it in a $200,000 boat? You bet. But don't count on getting a
bristol, fully stabilized 50-footer at that price. The smaller the
boat, the greater the seamanship required.

If you knew jack about a boat, you wouldn't be hanging on to your
50-foot minimum LOA so adamantly. But you don't, so you probably
should. There's no replacement for displacement- and it may keep you
afloat long enough for the Coast Guard to get a lifeboat or helicopter
out to your coordinates.

Hey, maybe the way for you to go would be ferro-cement. I bet there are
still a few of those old relics out there, and you can probably get a
boat with a braggable LOA for virtually nothing. There you go! :-)

You do seem to have enough brains to realize that you would be better
off with a displacement hull, as available on a lot of LRC's and nearly
all sailboats. You have no business on a sailboat unless you know how
to sail. Based on your stories of lining the cockpit of your 22-foot
Bayliner with jugs of gasoline and motoring into the teeth of
hurricanes, you'd kill yourself on a sailboat. Besides, I saw Mrs.
Psuedo jump back in alarm when a powerboat listed just slightly as she
put her normal weight on the aft deck; so I've got a technicolor photo
of her actually getting underway with you in a sailboat. (not) If you
buy a sailboat, I predict it will get even less use than your little
Bayliner did. (would that be possible?)

If suitable boats are commonly available, as you claim, why don't you
own one? Even if you do find one after your several years of dedicated
searching, remember that the exception proves the rule. If you do buy a
boat, make sure you do so very cost effectively. It will be back on the
market soon enough after you get a real taste of saltwater boating, and
it would terrible to see you take a walloping loss.

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