Re: OT:It's All Our Fault


"Doug Kanter" <ancientangler@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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>>>>>>>>>>>> That's why I always include his original post in all of my
>>>>>>>>>>>> replies. Then I just have to look up all of my old posts to
>>>>>>>>>>>> find exactly what he said and when he said it. I traced the
>>>>>>>>>>>> latest one back to April 2002 to find this gem:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> "The reality is that for at least the last 100 years, the
>>>>>>>>>>>> so-called Arab
>>>>>>>>>>>> states have contributed absolutely nothing to the furthering of
>>>>>>>>>>>> society in
>>>>>>>>>>>> any field of endeavor and the only reason anyone tolerates
>>>>>>>>>>>> their anti-social
>>>>>>>>>>>> behavior is because they happen to be sitting on oil. If it
>>>>>>>>>>>> weren't for
>>>>>>>>>>>> their oil, no one would pay them the slightest attention.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Their contributions to the fields of medicine, other sciences,
>>>>>>>>>>>> the arts,
>>>>>>>>>>>> socialization, you name it and there is nothing there. Oh...I
>>>>>>>>>>>> forgot...they're adept at cowardice, at furthering the
>>>>>>>>>>>> methodology of
>>>>>>>>>>>> terrorism and waging war on non-combatants."
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>>>>>>>>>>>> Hopefully you noticed where he lumped all of the Arab states
>>>>>>>>>>>> together and then said "they're adept at cowardice, at
>>>>>>>>>>>> furthering the methodology of terrorism and waging war on
>>>>>>>>>>>> non-combatants."
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I couldn't agree with him more.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Your previous post incorrectly stated that I believed the Arab
>>>>>>>>>>> states had never made contributions, and I pointed out that your
>>>>>>>>>>> statement was an incorrect summation of my position. The post of
>>>>>>>>>>> mine you've quoted above proves my point. The Arabs made
>>>>>>>>>>> significant contributions to society, but, as I stated, not
>>>>>>>>>>> recently.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Fine. Just as Christians have committed terrorist acts in the
>>>>>>>>>> past...but not recently.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> How do you define "recently"? Would that not include the murder of
>>>>>>>>> Dr. Bernard Slepian, or the bombing of abortion clinics?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Your analogy is only relevant if you can name the Christian
>>>>>>>> religious leaders who condoned it. So who did the directive come
>>>>>>>> from? The Pope? A Cardinal? A Bishop? In the Islamic faith,
>>>>>>>> there certainly seems to be more clerics arguing *for* jihad than
>>>>>>>> against it. I don't think you can even come close to comparing the
>>>>>>>> two religions in the manner in which you're attempting to compare
>>>>>>>> them.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Sorry. That game has been banned. Remember?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Game???
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Pretending you did not learn what was in the news, and claiming it
>>>>> wasn't true because nobody took notes 4 years ago to satisfy you. Next
>>>>> question?
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>>>> It wasn't a game. You put forth the analogy that Dr. Slepian's murder
>>>> was similar to the murder of innocent civilians by Muslims. So in
>>>> order for your analogy to be apt, there must be some Christian
>>>> equivalent of a "Muslim cleric" at the highest ranks of the Christian
>>>> churches who compares to the Muslim clerics that are issuing Fatwahs to
>>>> kill infidels. So I'll ask you again: which leader of one of the
>>>> mainstream Christian religions is calling on members of his
>>>> congregation to kill doctors who perform abortions?
>>>>
>>>>
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>>> Now you qualify your statement by saying "at the highest ranks"?
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>> Read back a little, Doug. I qualified my statement when I first made it
>> too.
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>>> How high? Bishop? Pope? Cardinal?
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>> All three...just as I stated earlier when I asked:
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>> "So who did the directive come from? The Pope? A Cardinal? A Bishop?"
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> How about a local minister with a congregation of 500-1000? Would that
> qualify?

Perhaps. What denomination? And who are that particular minister's
superiors in the Church? What do they have to say about the issue?


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