Re: I just don't understand why...

On Fri, 9 Dec 2005 13:20:52 -0500, KMAN wrote:

> "RkyMtnHootOwl" <rkymtnhoothoothootowl@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:1npsutb64fohk$.194mixa719hbc$.dlg@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> On 9 Dec 2005 07:09:44 -0800, Oci-One Kanubi wrote:
>>
>>> RkyMtnHootOwl wrote:
>>>> On Fri, 09 Dec 2005 00:53:25 -0500, KMAN wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> in article bn2145qsvzoj$.1so48rpbjcbbd$.dlg@xxxxxxxxxx, RkyMtnHootOwl
>>>>> at
>>>>> rkymtnhoothoothootowl@xxxxxxxxxxx wrote on 12/8/05 4:43 PM:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Thu, 8 Dec 2005 10:02:35 -0500, KMAN wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "RkyMtnHootOwl" <rkymtnhoothoothootowl@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
>>>>>>> news:1lzm98btp6ve0.1rq2c7lclio7w.dlg@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> snip
>>>>>>>> Not to disparage the dead, but consider this, two people together, a
>>>>>>>> 49 year old guy with all his attributes, and a 26 year old gal with
>>>>>>>> all her uh "attributes"
>>>> snip
>>>>>
>>>>> Why did you say it if you don't know what it means?
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I did not say I don't know what I mean, why don't you take a SWAG at
>>>> what I mean?
>>>
>>>
>>> Why not take a SWAG? Well, because most of us are not the kind of
>>> decent upright Christians who go around with our minds in the gutter.
>>> Most of us do not assume that when two colleagues, working out of town,
>>> want to try a recreational activity that doesn't interest anyone else
>>> in their workgroup, that there must be a sexual basis for their
>>> interest. It would certainly never have occured to me without yer
>>> tacky inuendo.
>>>
>>> Is this what Jesus has given you? A mean-sprited, narrow-minded,
>>> fault-finding, back-biting view of life? The presumption that everyone
>>> operates out of the most base motives? I'll bet you thank Jesus every
>>> day for his gifts
>>>
>>> I have a friend who has figured out that the reason Christians
>>> attribute disgusting motivations to everyone else is that they are
>>> constantly battling those same disgusting motivations within
>>> themselves, and they cannot believe that the rest of us operate under a
>>> diferent set of motivations. They cannot understand that the operative
>>> word in "secular humanist" is "humanist"; that we tend to operate,
>>> without conscious thought or the need to resist any vile impulses, by
>>> principles of humanity and humanitarianism -- courtesy, consideration,
>>> love, trust, and generosity.
>>>
>>> My apologies to all the kind, decent Christians who read this. It's
>>> just that those fundamentalist assholes give you all a bad name.
>>>
>>>
>>> -Richard, His Kanubic Travesty
>>
>> Richard, First off, I don't recall saying anything about Christian
>> values or morals, or anything along that line. I was just making a
>> comment about the reality of the world in which we live!
>
> What "reality" are you talking about?
>
Is your name Richard?
>> If you have difficulty dealing with reality
>
> What did he say, specifically, that indicates he is having difficulty with
> reality?
>
Is your name Richard?

>> I would recommend a good reality
>> check. It seems that your high minded humanist principles knew exactly
>> what I was referring to.
>
> Whatever it is, why are you keeping it a secret?
>
Is your name Richard?

>> I don't think you claim to be a Christian, so
>> I expect that those awareness' to the inuendos, like it or not, come
>> from your deep well of high-browed humanism. Your gutter was already
>> there, if you choose to ignore it, and then complain when it is
>> brought into view, I suggest that is your problem.
>
> What has been brought into view?
>
Is your name Richard?

>> Secondly I was not saying that I understood all the facts of the case,
>> since we were given little info. However the jist of this thread is
>> why do people do stupid things, and one major reason often involves
>> mixing relationships
>
> Do you have evidence that the "mixing of relationsihips" (whatever the
> christ that means!) has a direct correlation to increased kayaking tragedies
> or other such accidents? If not, what the hell are you talking about?!?
>
Is your name Richard?

>> under the circumstances that these two found themselves.
>
> What circumstances?!?!
>
Is your name Richard?

>> They may have been totally up and up in what they were up
>> to, but that would not change the theme of the thread.
>
> What the...? They went kayaking. What the christ are you talking about? Are
> you suggesting they were trying to have sex while balancing on the bow? Or
> what? What the hell are you talking about?!
>
Is your name Richard?

>> Third, If you choose to write a memorial to these outstanding upright,
>> colleagues, then I would suggest that this is not the forum or the
>> thread for that statement. I find it amusing whenever someone dies,
>> and all the sad sacks come out and post "Oh how terrible it is" when
>> the people who died were doing what they wanted to be doing.
>
> Well, they surely didn't want to be drowning.
>
Is your name Richard?

>> If they were up to mischief
>
> What mischief?!?!?!? WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT?!
>
Is your name Richard?

>> that is not the issue except how it teaches us
>> how to avoid making the same stupid mistakes.
>
> Isn't the only lesson here that you should wear a PFD and go out on the
> ocean in an area you know nothing about?
>
> And secondly that kayaking guides should not support the above?
>
Is your name Richard?

>> Fourth, If you desire to discuss the Christian ethic, and the Humanist
>> ethic, I would be glad to do so, but I will leave the door open for
>> you to make a graceful escape. I have been avoiding that conversation
>> until now, being content to comment in this NG just as a paddler, with
>> my eyes open to see reality one day at a time. I do appreciate your
>> concern about my ongoing view of life, but I assure you that I am
>> quite happy
>
> That could only be true if you are full-blown delusional, because you are
> truly one of the more disturbed individuals on usenet.
>
Is your name Richard?

>> and well adjusted to the world in which we live, and yes I
>> do thank Jesus every day for His good gifts, of which my life
>> overflows!
>
> Like diarrhea from a clogged crapper.

Is your name Richard?
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