Re: MS in Creationism
- From: landotter <landotter@xxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2009 07:16:52 -0700 (PDT)
On Mar 25, 8:55 am, Peter Cole <peter_c...@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
AMuzi wrote:
Bill Sornson wrote:
45% is very high for something with absolutely no scientific evidence
behind it, but to put it in perspective, of that 45%, 88% believe in
elves, 75% believe in the Easter Bunny, and 66% believe that Elvis is
working at a 7-11 in Ohio.
Whatever. 53% believe in Hopium, too. Or did on 4 November anyway. (now
not so much)
You really think McCain could beat him today?
Your average USAian believes electricity come from a little stream in
Wisconsin too.
Really?
Which is why many really do believe electric cars pollute
less (!)
They do, but the reasons are a little complex.
Exactly--sometimes Andrew makes me scratch my head when he repeats
easily dismissible hard right lies. Current modern power plants
convert fuel more efficiently to power at the wheel than does a
gasoline power plant. Doesn't make hauling around a ton of metal to
pick up some Cheerios any less stupid.
However, there's no panacea--like all things energy related, there
must be a scattergun solution when it comes to transit. Bikes are part
of that solution, as is elemental city planning.
Heck, Pelosi said she wanted US to run on no fossil fuels, only
natural gas instead (!).
This is a Limbaugh-ish overstatement of a gaffe last summer. In the
context of electricity production, NG is half the CO2 of coal, with far
fewer other pollutants. It's a practical candidate for cogeneration and
hydrogen production. These technologies will doubtlessly be important
during the transition away from fossil-fuel energy dependence.
Just to quibble, "natural gas" is methane. There are significant
non-fossil sources of methane.
Again--Andrew surprises me by jumping on the rightist lie brigade. I'm
all for disagreeing on policy, and I'm no cheerleader for Pelosi, but
she's not in the wrong at all. Natural gas is not synonymous with
methane, which can be created in other ways, such as waste digestion.
It's lamentable that rightist media is so chock full of lies that even
Andrew Muzi, whom I respectfully disagree politically with, repeats
them. That's our most critical problem in America currently--an
addiction to bullshit and lies--especially when it comes to casually
lying about basic science to further a political agenda.
.
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