Re: Knowledge-proof arrogance

On Jan 20, 7:53 am, Chalo <chalo.col...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
jim beam wrote:

being the machinist that presses the button on the machine that shapes
something doesn't mean you know about the properties of the material or
the application to which it's suited!  sorry chalo, not only is that the
truth, but it's a truth you keep on proving repeatedly with your fud and
bull***.
[...]
oh, the irony of this is /so/ rich!!!  how does microstructure affect
mechanical properties chalo???  tell me because i obviously need to
learn from a machinist!!!

Having worked mostly in results-oriented research and development
environments, I've had the good fortune of mostly not working with
engineers who display the arrogant and knowledge-resistant attitude
you do.  Most of them would come to me for advice about materials,
aware that I was more familiar with these materials than they were.  A
couple of the seasoned aerospace engineers were materials specialists,
and were quick to share what they knew with me so that I could help
them get the parts they needed.  One of them was even a former
machinist, very cooperative and obliging.

Only the pettiest and least productive few engineers I have ever had
the displeasure of working with displayed disregard, let alone
contempt, for my understanding of the things I work with.  And their
resistance to learning things or even hearing things from those
"beneath their station" was richly displayed in their inability to get
things done-- whether they were working with me, others in the
company, or outside contractors.

I don't know where you work or what you do there, but I know from your
arrogance which kind of engineer you are.

Chalo

I dunno, Chalo. You can save yourself a lot of heartburn if you regard
an engineer an eejit expensively edjicated to tell people with real-
life experience what they cannot do, and when they've done it anyway,
tell them why they shoulda done it some other way.

Smart operators learn young that mathematicians, who can work out
anything engineers learn of by heart at college, come cheap, and that
the cheapest wage of all is paying a time-served craftsman the respect
he's due.

A special tip for people building complete one-off automobiles: the
two most important guys on your team are the welder and the machinist
who knows which billet to substitute for your underspecified drawing
of a part that will kill you at the first corner. A guy who can tell
by eye where to leave the radius in the corners you didn't see is
worth his weight in insurance payments.

Andre Jute
I learned it the hard way
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