Re: Comcast no longer supports usenet



On Fri, 31 Oct 2008 02:38:50 GMT, Still Just Me <nope@xxxxxxxx> wrote:

On Thu, 30 Oct 2008 13:43:00 -0600, carlfogel@xxxxxxxxxxx wrote:

You might as well expect a restaurant to lower its prices because it
disconnected the clock on the wall.

Comcast is joining a trend instigated by the New York Attorney General
and picked up by nearly every major ISP.

Several months ago, the NY AG sued several large providers claiming
that by carrying 17 specific newsgroups that potentially had kiddie
porn, they were knowingly storing KP on their servers and therefore
subject to arrest under KP laws.

Instead of removing the KP groups, they all used it as an excuse to
cut usenet services dramatically and eliminate an expense used by a
relatively small group of subscribers. Keep in mind that many
terabytes of storage were needed to store even a weeks worth of NG's.
Since the NG's were a major source of warez and questionable A/V, they
chewed up lots of bandwidth. Add to that the fact that the RIAA was
already engaged in trying to sue providers to make them remove groups
that contained A/V... and the ISP's had an easy decision to make -
Screw the limited number of customers who knew what the usenet was and
pull the plug.

Verizon, for example, cut all groups except the big 8. Others removed
all usenet service. It was only a matter of time before Comcast
followed suit. None of the providers has reduced charges.

Dear SJM,

Yes, usenet had become a giant headache for the ISPs, with practically
no profit. I think that you understand it, but other posters are still
imagining that the ISPs will somehow pocket huge profits.

Posters who want their monthly ISP bill to drop when the ISP drops
usenet just don't understand that over 100 other subscribers who never
heard of usenet were paying for their posting.

When you spread the $8/month that's been mentioned as the "cost" of
usenet access for one person over more than a hundred other
subscribers who never heard of usenet, the cost works out to less than
a dime per subscriber per month.

And that assumes that Comcast was paying anything as high as that $8
per month individual rate.

One way to illustrate the economics is to ask how much Comcast should
reduce its charges for no longer offering me the usenet access that
www.motzarella.org has been offering for free for years?

Cheers,

Carl Fogel
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