Re: spoke fatigue troll



The "jim beam" sock puppet wrote:
Tom Sherman wrote:
Ben C? wrote:
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There are real engineers working at places like Mavic and Shimano but
they don't post on RBT (as far as we know) so all we have to go on is
analysis of the finished products and dubious marketing material.

Why spend money on engineering when it could be spent on marketing?

but they /do/ spend it on engineering!!! where do you think straight pull spokes come from??? where do welded and machined rims come from??? that *** ain't cheap.

And completely unnecessary. Conventional spoked wheels with non-machined rims work just fine at a much lower cost, thank you.

Spending money unnecessarily is not good engineering practice, but how would "jim beam" know that?

After all, many of the customers are simply interested in the "latest and greatest" and will be frequently upgrading for the sake of staying "current", so durability does not matter too much.

rubbish. see above.

Hit a nerve there "jim"? One only needs to observe the conformist crowd to see that fashion is the most important thing.

Remember, conforming to the crowd and having the right look on the "training" rides is what matters to most of the riders who purchase things like pre-built Mavic wheels.


no, they buy and ride them because they're much more reliable than the typical garbage built by their lbs. 5 out of 6 local shops in my experience couldn't build a decent wheel if their life depended on it.
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There are plenty of sources for decent conventional wheels. FedEx and UPS will happily deliver the wheels to your door.

One can even buy inexpensive machine built wheels with quality conventional components, and do the final truing, tensioning, etc. one's self.

I suppose "jim" likes paying more for wheels with expensive proprietary parts.

my pre-built mavic and shimano wheels have been fab straight out of the box. and i'm no lightweight. [unlike you.]

My LBS built wheels have been fine out of the shipping box.

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