Re: The secrets of Armstrong


Java Man Espressopithecus wrote:
In article <1152288689.699312.14970@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>,
KingGeorgeXLI@xxxxxxxx says...
Again you do not dispute the fact that it is a rare cancer- we have
already discussed the statistics, and young men rarely get cancer,
regardless of which of those rare events is the commonest- but instead
say it does not prove the claim that I explicitly said I was not
making. How weird is that?

I think your original statement was misleading.

I inferred (perhaps incorrectly) from your original post on the subject
that you're suggesting there may be a connection between Armstrong's
"rare" testicular cancer and drug use.

You are correct that testicular cancer is a rare DISEASE. But among
cancers affecting young men, it is not a rare CANCER -- in fact, it is
the most common cancer affecting young men.

The minor point is: cancer is rare among young men and so testicular
cancer, whether or not it is the commonest in that demographic (you
must specify white in addition), is still rare amongst them. By the
way, LA is not precisely in the highest risk demographic, having not
grown up wealthy.

The major point is: a certain set of facts holds. As this thread
proves, many find them so damning and incriminating on the face of it
that they rail against any one who happens to list them. However, they
do not prove anything. Indeed there may be a connection with doping.
And indeed there may not be. As I said in the first post: welcome to
the world of the unknown.

It seems conceptually impossible to ever get out of it completely, as
far as the future goes, but if drug testing advanced incredibly, we
might get nearer the borders of it, especially, if samples are
preserved, for past eras, whose doping methods are not subject to
refinement. No guarantee that will happen though. There has probably
been more accomplished by police operations than drug testing.
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