Re: Keep Biking - We Need To

Wayne Pein wrote:
> Chalo wrote:
>
> > Wayne Pein wrote:
> >
> >>If one examines the relavent actual fuel consumption per passenger mile
> >>statistics, mass transit systems, even the most heavily used, in the US
> >>get roughly the same passenger per mile fuel consumption as the average
> >>car (ie gas guzzler) with one occupant, the driver.
> >
> >
> > If you are going to make preposterous assertions like that, you had
> > better back them up with reputable sources, preferably with hard
> > numbers attached.
>
> Here's a preposterous one for you to examine.
>
> http://www.bts.gov/publications/national_transportation_statistics/
> 2003/html/table_04_20.html

That table shows that bus service, even averaging in all the broken
systems that are designed to *prevent* people from wanting to use them,
gets comparable energy efficiency per passenger-mile to cars. So it's
certain that the most heavily used metropolitan bus systems, where
ridership is high and distances short, beats that average by a wide
margin.

Furthermore, your table shows that Amtrak-- strong contender for the
worst, most underutilized rail system on the planet-- has consumption
per passenger mile on the close order of half that of the *averagely
occupied* car (something >1 passenger).

What you said was that even the _most heavily used_ transit systems
consumed energy like _single-occupant cars_, and that's simply not true
even according to the statistics you cite.

Chalo Colina

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