Re: I try hard to support my LBS



Dave Mayer wrote:
> "Josh" <furmanj@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:dp4fih$eca8$1@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > but...
> >
> > So I went in today for a single spoke for an old mountain bike that I
> > wanted to fix up enough to sell. Simple enough, right? Since its an old
> > freehub which I didn't have the removal tool for (drive side spoke), I
> > asked the guy if he could spin it off for me. He goes, "sure, but it'll be
> > a couple of dollars labor." I was stunned, but said that'd be fine.
> > Removal takes 20 seconds, maybe 30 at the most. I go to pay and they
> > charge me $0.75 for the spoke and $7.50 in labor charges. When I said that
> > was crazy he started to give me some speech about how he has to pay his
> > mechanics blah blah blah
> >
>
> OK, another bike shop incident that occurred today. For the group to judge.
>
> A pal has an old rear wheel that he wants converted to fit with his new road
> frame. The old road frame used 122mm stays, and the new frame is a modern
> 130mm.
>
> What has to be done is that a longer rear axle has to be installed, plus
> about 8mm of spacers, and the wheel needs a minor redishing. The wheel was
> dead straight before, so what has to be done is to tighten the spokes on one
> side of the wheel by one revolution, and the spokes on the other side all
> loosened by the same amount. Parts: a new axle and an 8mm axle spacer. The
> hub bearings/cones were all OK, and came into the shop with fresh grease.
> The hub was a easy to work on Shimano cup 'n cone affair.
>
> Total bill: $85 for what I figure should have been 30 minutes of work.
>
> This in itself would not have caused me to flip out, except the shop
> installed a 145mm mountain bike rear axle. There was so much axle hanging
> out on each side of the dropouts that the side that the only way to tighten
> the wheel with the quick release was to crush the spiral springs against the
> frame.
>
> So, in my garage, here is what we spent today doing:
>
> - Pull the hub apart to fix the botched shop job
> - Cut the axle to a proper length (thanks Ryan!)
> - While we have everything apart, replace the 7-speed for an 8/9-speed
> freehub
> - Add an extra cog and cassette spacer
> - Put hub back together.
>
> Then, the following additional work:
>
> - Install and set-up a braze-on front derailleur, which included
> straightening the bent hanger on the frame
> - Install a new bottom bracket and reinstall crankset
> - Put on some new road pedals. Dura-Ace 7401's, as the guy is a LOOK fan.
> - Install some Campagnolo brakes
> - Straighten out crooked cage plates on a rear Campagnolo derailleur, which
> involved a complete disassembly.
>
> Total parts bill: coincidently: $85. If you have a stash of old parts, and
> the tools, do-it-yourself is the way to go.

That didn't make much sense. Who's ever heard of a frame and cassette
hub with 122mm spacing? How many cogs were on the 122mm spaced hub?
How did the shop come up with $85 for an axle and labor, i.e., what
does the receipt say? Why didn't somebody complain about the absurd
price? That failing, why didn't you just trim the excessively long
axle?

-Vee

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