Re: Vibration damping
- From: "Sandy" <leurre@xxxxxxxx>
- Date: Fri, 9 Dec 2005 11:31:35 +0100
Dans le message de
news:tedbennett-A42EC6.19492308122005@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx,
Ted Bennett <tedbennett@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> a réfléchi, et puis a déclaré :
> "Sandy" <leurre@xxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
>>> All that Specialized has provided is smoke and mirrors. My
>>> instincts tell me that when smoke and mirrors are being employed,
>>> there's something being hidden...and it's usually fungible with a
>>> big sign that says "scam".
>>
>> With all the disbelief expressed this thread, and previously, I am
>> truly surprised no one is brave enough to give the FTC a nice little
>> call to put an end to this "scam". Unless, of course, the naysayers
>> really don't have the right story. Either the stuff works, and
>> Specialized is entitled to market it as they see fit, or they are
>> defrauding the public, and should be severely disciplined.
>>
>> So, who is the taker out there to make the bold step forward and put
>> his/her reputation on the line, expertise on the table, and undress
>> this falsehood.
>>
>> Don't you brave souls all run to the phone, now ...
>
>
> The FTC has nothing to say about this issue.
>
> Specialized's claims were carefully crafted by crafty wordsmiths, and
> they make no fraudulent claims or deceptions as the FTC defines them.
> If they say that their Zertz damp some vibration at the top of the
> seat tube, compared to the source in the BB, I believe them. Of
> course, that may not have any effect on the vibrational spectrum that
> the rider meets. The rider always wears pants (with some notable
> exceptions http://www.barewitness.org/worldnakedbikeride04.html ) and
> often gloves, usually seated on a flexible saddle.
>
> Certainly, Specialized manages to convey the impression that their
> bikes are more comfortable than others. That is safe because comfort
> is a highly subjective matter. It is fraudulent in a different
> sense, a lie of the second kind. If it was possible to prohibit this
> and yet retain free speech (and it is not) virually all advertising
> firms would vanish in a puff of smoke and a crashing of breaking
> mirrors.
>
> Doesn't this sort of thing happen in France, Sandy? I don't think you
> have to think long or hard to come up with an example of misleading
> puffery in L'Express.
Stop with this outdated "puffery" be it in the US or in France. If it's
false, and you seem to write that it is NOT false, then they are correct.
If it is perceived by a rider, then it is even less false - more factual.
But if it is false, as many claim here, yes, the FTC can correct the
situation, were they to have an interest. Those who appear to have such an
interest also seem to have an interest in propping up their own erudition
without the courage of confronting Specialized directly. Again, who is
brave enough to take that step ? I don't "buy" every statement from
marketing. Nor do you. But it takes more than harumphing to settle this.
--
Sandy
Verneuil-sur-Seine
*******
La vie, c'est comme une bicyclette,
il faut avancer pour ne pas perdre l'équilibre.
-- Einstein, A.
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