Re: Henry Chang's Racing Results

On Sep 9, 4:28 pm, "Tom Kunich" <cyclintom@yahoo. com> wrote:


AA was the center of his own universe and so were his pals. Their drunken
teenager tactics were disgusting and had a very bad effect here. Do you
remember one of those blockheads excoriating Andy Hampsten who was posting
here and happened to advertise where you could buy one of his signed shirts
or some such? We never saw Andy after that little trick.

On the other hand I get carried away with targeting the jackasses when I
should only post one opinion and let them alone. So I have done more than my
share of carrying on strings that ought to die. But I'm working on that.

No doubt about it Tom they acted like a bunch of pinheads, but even at
it's worst this place was better than a lot of the unmoderated gun,
and politics groups out there. Even in groups that I read that have a
relentless insistance on civil behavior, as the core of the culture,
crap gets out of hand occasionally.
None of us are perfect on that account, though some folks don't even
try. I know that some of my stupidity reduced the posting of at least
one good person here, but that was a mistake, not vindictiveness on my
part.
I actually think it's a pretty good mirror of society as a whole, and
the road bike racing crowd in particular. We've got a local incident
going on which is most of the rbr *** in microcosm on the newspapers
forum. Same crap different people and subject.
I'm not sure what Henry's reason for using "dumbass" as a salutation
is, other than it's one of the defining things about rbr. If your
reactionary and new you might get all offended, if you've lurked for a
while you'd know it is just a "lodge handshake" greeting with no real
meaning behind it. For a few boxtops he might send you the secret
decoder ring too.
The reality is that this place has been more than reasonable on the
whole for the last few years, with a few exceptions. The last real
pinhead, or set of pinheads were the CP folks.
Monkeyboy has a lot to offer if you bother to get past the schtick.
The oint about CN killing things here makes a lot of sense. There's
little need to come here for race reports when they are now available,
with pictures, and depth from multiple sources. It's nice to hear
personal narratives here, or reports on smaller races but most of the
time those draw only a handful of responses. Marian's stuff is
fantastic 99% of the time.
I really miss Myerson, Verhuel, E-Rok, etc...posting regularly, but
there're a couple of points there. Lots of those type of folks are
really busy these days, they are doing "professional" type stuff where
image is important, so they would have to post anonymously, or
incredibly carefully to not have stuff googled up against them, and
that's no fun, and it's tough to give content, hide your style, and
stay anon.
Lots of discussions never really change either, and get really old.
I've picked up a few of the bodybuilding mags for the first time
inyears recently, and it's amazing that 90% of the training and diet
stuff is a rehash of stuff that was well know 25 or 30 years ago. Like
that, it's pretty much the same with cycling stuff. The only real news
is in gossip, politics, doping and the like. The technical stuff
hasn't changed much, especially with the UCI and their draconian
"bicycle" rules stifling anything really new. The training and stuff
isn't that different either, just different shades of tracking it with
the newer electronics. That conversation runs out in a hurry too, or
is endless fodder for the geeks over at rbt.
Lots of times the only place that "Golden Age" really happened was in
peoples heads. Looking back we tend to exagerate what it really was,
or how bad it was.
The other reality is that cycling is pretty short on seriously
controversial superstars right now. That's why the Lance talk caused
an instant firestorm. There's no Pantani, Cipo, Ulrich, Lance,
Museeuw, there's a bunch of vanilla racers, and even McWhiner seems to
have wound down.
Even domestically we've got some kids coming up, and at L'Avenir who
might be pretty good, and develop into good stories, but nothing earth
shattering.
I think a lot of those folks do still lurk, and that's been the
indication from some of them but don't post here much anymore. Some do
post on more local and focused forums like the regional cross forum
here, but that's mostly local news, events, and gossip. More to talk
about because most of the folks were at races together that week, or
riding together recently and have common experiences to talk about.
Mostly cupcakes in particular.
Bill C
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