Re: Henry Chang's Racing Results


"Carl Sundquist" <carlsun@xxxxxxx> wrote in message
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"Black Bart Roberts" <Bart@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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There's a huge different here in how the Italians and the French handle
threads, and how rbr does. In the Euro groups, posts rarely goes past 10
or 20 replies at most, and that's rare, usually 5 or 10 replies is the
norm. You never see 50 or a 100, let alone 300 or more. Also their
replies are usually short and very much to the point. Here, just to give
you an example, once a Redlands thread had 300 replies, and only one
reply had anything to do about Redlands. Here its not uncommon to get a
lot of OT and threads that go 300, 500, even a 1000 replies! But a lot of
it is grab ass, and punting the ball around, tag, just nonsense back and
forth. The Euro groups rarely get into square offs, personal attacks, at
least if they do, it never lasts more then a few replies. I don't know
exactly why the Italians and the French are so polite in their
newsgroups, but its got to have something to do with their culture and
lifestyle. Italy is the old culture of arts and the cities of love and
romance, and France is also the easy going old world style romantic
culture as well. Also cycling is a religion in Italy and France, so they
are more serious, sober and respectful in their newsgroups. They take the
sport very seriously.


I'm not sure how many people are aware that rbr exists as a pure
newsgroup, but Google says there are only about 1350 subscribers and only
78 recent authors. And Google refers to it as high activity. IMO that's
not just thin, but _really_ thin, especially when you consider the tEDs,
Cousineaus, Legates, and Ghoshs. I don't know if that number includes
places like cyclingforums that seem to harvest rbr.

However, I also frequently read rec.motorcycles.racing. While there is
namecalling and other baiting stuff going on, it is extremely on-topic.
But there are many days when you can count the number of posts on one
hand. Despite the fact that motorcycle road racing is a bigger budget
enterprise and probably catering to a wider world wide and US audience,
there are less than 200 subscribers acording to Google.

Choose your poison.

P.S. I don't remember the "preferred this group to be a little more, ah
different," comment. Can you show a link? Maybe I can explain it (even to
myself).

The disparity must have to do with the underground concept. With big money
sports, they don't really need forums or so many websites to round things
out like cycling does because sports like Baseball, Football, Basketball
have plenty of TV coverage to satisfy typical fans, but cycling seems to
require a much more dedicated fan then those sports, plus it goes almost all
year long. Cycling seems much more complex and time consuming to keep up
with, which is not a bad thing, its a good thing, but maybe bad for people
who don't have much time to follow sports. Cycling is certainly not a easy
sport to follow, it requires a fair amount of diligence. So the underground
thing has to do with lack of main stream coverage on TV, we use forums and
websites to keep up, we go underground so to speak to make up for what the
mainstream media are unwilling to provide. I did see the US championships
were on versus today with Mari Holden doing a little gig.

On the thread, that would probably be somewhere around July 2004, pre tour
or during the tour, but without a unique word, its impossible to find,
unless spending some time digging around the google index. I lost that link
to the google index, Microsoft netscan link is dead now. With the Google
index, I think it had all the years, months and states how many posts are in
each month. Might find it there, but basically someone asked you about the
quality of posts in rbr, and you said its not bad at times, but you wished
it was a little more something, can't remember the exact words, but probably
to do with less fat and more content!

Black Bart




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