Re: World hour record holder positive for doping
- From: raamman@xxxxxxxxx
- Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2008 08:21:08 -0700 (PDT)
On Aug 31, 6:15 am, "b...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx" <bjwei...@xxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
On Aug 30, 7:03 pm, Howard Kveck <YOURhow...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
"Mike Murray" <mike.mur...@xxxxxxxx> wrote:
"Ryan Cousineau" <rcous...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
"It's quite possible I'm misreading this, but isn't meth more of a
recreational drug that's good for giving you psychosis and bad teeth?"
"Tom Kunich" <cyclintom@yahoo. com> wrote:
"I think that methamphetamine would be a pretty funny drug to take to
improve your performance. You'd be just as likely to stop to smell the
roses."
Although methamphetamine is a serious problem as a recreational drug it is
still an amphetamine and amphetamines are some of the oldest drugs used for
performance enhancement. In fact, this is one of the reasons why it is used
as a recreational drug. If you use heroin you have a hard time getting to
work. If you use meth you can work 2 jobs because you don't sleep. Meth
users don't stop and smell flowers, they work overtime stealing you copper
wiring. It is probable that if Sosenka actually did use meth he used it for
the perceived performance enhancement. Interestingly the data regarding
increased performance with amphetamines is far more marginal than the
perceived effect.
You could look at it this way: a meth user can train more because they don't
sleep. I doubt the additional hours on the bike would supply any long term gain,
however. I wonder what meth Tom is thinking about that makes a user want to stop,
period.
Tom is probably thinking of ecstacy (MDMA). It is a
methamphetamine derivative, also a serotonin
re-uptake inhibitor, and has some of the same
metabolites, but is probably not what Sosenka
tested positive for.
Meth like all the other amphetamines, and most
stimulants, is perceived to be a perfomance
enhancer. It seems like a dumb one to use if you
might be tested.
Apparently, meth abuse doesn't cause meth mouth
and bad teeth directly, it's all the other things that go
along with meth - dry mouth, lousy hygiene, teeth
clenching, drinking too much soda pop. It's similar to
but more pernicious than "orange mouth," which is
what habitual pot smokers get from eating too
many Cheetos.
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when I was a kid I was prescibed tedral for asthma symptoms ( which
neglicted the fact my parents were fairly heavy smokers); which is now
a controled anphetamine, half a pill would have me jittery like maybe
2 pots of coffee; but I noticed despite feeling more energetic I could
not run nearly as far or as fast as I could under "normal" conditions
(assuming I wasn't having any asthma-like symptoms at the time). based
on my experience it always seemed to me that anphetamines were
performance reducers. especially for impeding athletism, I assume as
the liver would be working to remove the drug from the blood, and
motor nuerons firing unecessarily- perhaps someone here with some
pharmacutical knowledge might have some facts on the effects on
anphetamines in sport ?
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