Re: Dope Testing - An utter waste of time



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Marty <m_piet@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

On Jul 30, 2:08 pm, 2bowl...@xxxxxxxxx wrote:
On Jul 30, 3:34 pm, Marty <m_p...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

both functionally and structurally different and it can be differentiated
in samples

Just to be picky - note that "can be differentiated" does not indicate
that it is easy to do so.

In the larger picture, Roche is very interested in positioning their
new EPO type product as "different" and "better" from others. A large
group of lawyers and PR people will have considered the text of their
comments on this matter. They look good for helping the testing lab
and they get to talk about their product too. Good on them.

I'm not anti-Roche BTW, I'd have done the same thing.

So who doped and who got away with it?  

Most of them but who cares? It's pro sports, it's entertainment and
this year's tour (TIOOYK) was entertaining. Heck, we even discussed
specificity and sensitivity of biomarker testing in RBR. That's pretty
much a perfect July!!

Mark

Most of them but who cares? It's pro sports, it's entertainment and
this year's tour (TIOOYK) was entertaining.

Exactly my point as to why testing can go away.

A question for all: why was testing started in the 1st place?

Philosophically, there's a lot of reasons why drugs are banned and
testing is done.

As for the most catalytic moment, you already know but I'll say it to
continue this discussion: Tom Simpson died with amphetamines (and
possibly more) in his blood.

Not that anti-dopers want further justification, but Sudden Espoir Death
Syndrome in the 1990s was another pretty fundamental reminder of what
can happen when riders are willing to experiment with cutting-edge
nonsense to win races.

Before you say that legal, supervised doping would solve that problem, I
would remind you that dose-response is real, and there is more than one
drug where performance enhancement continues to rise as the dose goes
above what a doctor would consider safe levels.

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Ryan Cousineau rcousine@xxxxxxxxx http://www.wiredcola.com/
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"In rec.bicycles.racing, we coach them."
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