Re: Report Blames Biofuels for Food Crisis

On 7/4/08 5:54 PM, in article 1Czbk.567$cn7.71@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "Mike
Jacoubowsky" <mikej1@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

| > "George Bush's drive to reduce dependence on foreign
| > oil led him to decree that by 2025, the US should
| > replace 75% of imported oil with biofuel."
| >
| >
http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2008/jan/21/biofuels.alternativeenergy
| >
| > That's not a realistic goal by 2025, I think,
| > but it makes the grain producers happy.
|
| http://www.syntroleum.com/pdf/AGMPresentationJune22008RevisionFINAL3.pdf
|
| Check out page 6 in particular.

What are we looking for on page 6? It's a flow chart showing how the
Bio-Synfining fuel is made, and it appears to my non-engineering mind that
it differs from most bio-fuels by having a 3rd step (step 3 in the flow
chart) that isn't the norm. That 3rd step incorporates materials that would
otherwise be considered waste, but the previous 2 do not (Natural Gas, Coal
or "Biomass").

I did find page 10 interesting. $1/gallon subsidy. But according to their
own figures, it becomes profitable to create fuel without any subsidies at
all at a price lower than what we're currently seeing at the pump.

--Mike-- Chain Reaction Bicycles
www.ChainReactionBicycles.com


"Tom Kunich" <cyclintom@yahoo. com> wrote in message
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| <bjw@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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| > On Jul 4, 3:19 pm, "Tom Kunich" <cyclintom@yahoo. com> wrote:
| >> <b...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
| >>
| >>
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| >> > On Jul 4, 2:35 pm, "Tom Kunich" <cyclintom@yahoo. com> wrote:
| >>
| >> >> Well, go ahead and ignore the effects of upper class
| >> >> environmentalists.
| >>
| >> > Biofuels as presently in operation don't have
| >> > anything to do with latte-sipping genocidal
| >> > environmentalists.
| >>
| >> Ben, how do you suppose the government got into the ethanol supporting
| >> business?
| >
| > The farm lobby? If the wacko-Green lobby was as
| > powerful as the farm lobby, you and I would be living
| > in treehouses and weaving our own cycling jerseys
| > from locally grown hemp.
| >
| > "George Bush's drive to reduce dependence on foreign
| > oil led him to decree that by 2025, the US should
| > replace 75% of imported oil with biofuel."
| >
| >
http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2008/jan/21/biofuels.alternativeenergy
| >
| > That's not a realistic goal by 2025, I think,
| > but it makes the grain producers happy.
|
| http://www.syntroleum.com/pdf/AGMPresentationJune22008RevisionFINAL3.pdf
|
| Check out page 6 in particular.
|




Mike,

We all know you only see what you want to see.....
What caught my eye was "Animal Fats"

HUH?

Sounds like taking more food from people to feed our energy needs..
They might be referring to using french fry oil in your diesel car. It also
shows a graphic of Hydrocarbons + H2O. You have heard that it takes up to
1000 gallons of water to make 1 gallon of Biofuel.

.

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