Re: Memorial Day (OT)

Bill C wrote:
On May 26, 7:41 am, MagillaGorilla <magi...@xxxxxxx> wrote:
Bill C wrote:
On May 25, 9:24 pm, Bill C <tritonri...@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
On May 25, 8:36 pm, John Forrest Tomlinson <usenetrem...@xxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
On Mon, 26 May 2008 00:33:12 GMT, John Forrest Tomlinson
<usenetrem...@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
On Sun, 25 May 2008 15:18:42 -0700 (PDT), Bill C
<tritonri...@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
If Bush and company aren't guilty of treason it's only because the
left fought so hard to make it almost impossible to prosecute someone
for this, but they did that in self defense since there's no question
in my mind Hanoi Jane, at least, was guilty of it along with many
others.
What is your problem? Everything has a bugaboo leftie behind it.
The reason thet Bushco can't be prosecuted is that the evidence is
hidden behind executive privelege, destroyed evidence, a corrupt
justice department, etc.
One other thing Bill -start living in the present and start blaming
people who are responsible NOW for what what's going on.
Clearly the left really upset you in the past, but you've got to let
it go and view the world through current reality. Or, if you don't want to let it go, blame them for whatever they did
to you in the past, but stop viewing today through that old lens.
The past informs the future JT. How do you seperate people from their
past? You can't seperate Africans from being enslaved, you can't
seperate Jews from the Holocaust, you can't seperate Progressives from
their past either.
I think I'm moving on. I can, and do recognize what's happening
today. A large part of that has been you in particular moving me on.
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JT I'm really happy to see the liberal folks making the suicide rate
today a big issue, because it is, but it's not smart strategy on their
part.
There's a much higher awareness today, better treatment, more support
and many less troops than were in Vietnam.
Vietnam vets came home to brutal hostility from people on the left
who actively supported the enemy.
Howard asked if I thought they were all traitors a while ago. I
didn't answer then, and I`'ll answer this way today. The VC/NVA knew
the couldn't win militarily, and that's from their own words and
writings. They needed to break America's will to support South
Vietnam. They were counting on the anti-war movement to do that for
them. Tet destroyed the VC. They knew it was suicide going in, but
also bet that it would be the straw that broke the support and won
them the war. It was a tactical disaster, and strategically it won
them the war because of what it did for the anti-war movement.
If suicide is such a big issue now, how much worse was it then, when
they were comning home to be hated and abused by the people who now
claim to support them?
Soldiers don't commit suicide because citizens oppose a war. You make
it sound like when a soldier comes home and goes to Walmart, the
customers and cashier are harassing him about the war. And that this
goes on 24 hours a day, 7 days a week.

In reality, once you take off the uniform, nobody even knows if you
fought in a war.

How did the public "abuse" soldiers?

I remember at Kent State when National Guard killed 4 protesters. But I
don't recall any incident of a soldier being killed when they came home
from either Vietnam or Iraq.

Stop being so melodramatic.

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Go to your local Veterans hospital, or Vietnam vets support group and
talk to people, and listen to their stories.

A large percentage of human beings, generally, enjoy playing the role of "victim". It absolves them of responsibility for their actions and the results of their own choices.

Most of the veterans I know tend to be human beings.
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