Re: Somehow No One Seems To Think

On Apr 4, 10:41 pm, "Tom Kunich" <cyclintom@yahoo. com> wrote:

Wait a minute Bill, why would he HAVE desenting opinions? He is a
Conservative explaining the conservative position. Though I have to admit I
don't much like the way he tends to support non-conservative Republicans,
perhaps he figures that better them than the alternative.


Tom from that standpoint I agree. If you take the program with the
understanding that he's a salesman for the hard-line conservative
position, and that that the show is not a discussion of the issues
then he's great at it. If he's supporting moderate Republicans these
days, that's got to be the reason. I haven't heard him do this. I
haven't kistened in, probably, 3 years and back then and before he
treated them as traitors and scumbags. Same treatment Leiberman gets
from the far left Dem's.

Now there's a real recommendation - he's FRIENDS with AlSharpton- the
man
who wants all white people murdered.

Tom, I assume you're talking about his relationship with Khallid
Muhammad. That's totally screwed, but I don't think Sharpton believes
in that crap. The point was that it's a great thing to have friends
with totally different views IMO.

Let's be clear on this Bill - your OPINION doesn't overrule Sharpton's
speeches.


I haven't heard Sharpton make speeches calling for murder. Muhammad's
stuff is on-line. I couldn't find anything of Sharpton's calling for
murder.
I like Bill Cosby, Dr. King, and Jim Brown's approach to dealing with
race a whole lot better than Sharpton, and Farrakhan's.

And while we're at it - this isn't a personal attack Bill, it's a comment on
your weird wandering path between conservative and liberal points of view
which would be fine if you didn't seem to take the opposite position from
others.

I appreciate your civility on this with me Tom. I understand where
everyone gets frustrated and things degenerate. I just don't think it
helps anything, but thanks.
I'm all over the place on politics, and depending on what minute you
ask me I might very well contradict myself on some things.
I love to debate, and discuss, but absolutely detest arguing, it
turns my stomach and means you've failed in communicating.
If I disagree I say so, and do my damndest to explain why I do, as
honestly, openly, and civilly as possible.
Anything involving people is soft science with no clear cut answers.
I'm hung up on moderation, tolerance, respect, equality of
opportunity, equal rights, protections, and responsibilities, non-
violence, and civility.
quoted:
Power tends to corrupt; absolute power corrupts absolutely

An observation that a person's sense of morality lessens as his or her
power increases. The statement was made by Lord Acton, a British
historian of the late nineteenth and early twentieth centuries.

I almost totally agree with that, and it doesn't seem to matter what
flavor politician, businessperson, or person they are, and whether
it's local, national, international, economic, or whatever.
The greater, and more concentrated the control and power becomes, the
less respect and tolerance for dissenting opinions and positions,
seems to be the normal course, no matter who has the power and
control.
Bill C

I'm gonna toss on a few quotes, from Heinlein that I like, and have
been influenced by:

Moderation in all things. Including moderation.

Always cut the cards...and smile when you lose.

A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion,
butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance
accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders,
give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new
problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight
efficiently, die gallantly. Specialization is for insects.

What are the facts? Again and again and again--what are the facts? Shun
wishful thinking, ignore divine revelation, forget what "the stars
foretell," avoid opinion, care not what the neighbors think, never
mind the unguessable "verdict of history"; what are the facts, and to
how many decimal places? You pilot always into an unknown future;
facts are your single clue. Get the facts!

When any government, or any church for that matter, undertakes to say
to its subjects, "This you may not read, this you must not see, this
you are forbidden to know," the end result is tyranny and oppression,
no matter how holy the motives. Mighty little force is needed to
control a man whose mind has been hoodwinked; contrariwise, no amount
of force can control a free man, a man whose mind is free. No, not the
rack, not fission bombs, not anything--you can't conquer a free man;
the most you can do is kill him.


Robert Heinlein (1907 - 1988)
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