Re: floating pedal myth DEBUNKED

On Jan 29, 11:01 pm, Scott <hendricks_sc...@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
On Jan 29, 9:47 pm, Bret <bret.w...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:



On Jan 29, 8:02 pm, Steven Bornfeld <dentaltwinm...@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:

Ryan Cousineau wrote:

Well, Pruitt's experience may have the better part of this academic
duel, but it bothers me that on one hand we have a pretty theoretical
experiment based on fiddling with dead legs, and on the other hand what
appears to be, more or less, Pruitt's anecdotal, uncontrolled
"experiment" consisting of 30 years of fiddling with live legs.

Not that I don't respect Pruitt's experience; if I had to trust only one
of these results, I'd probably trust his. But people are fallible, and
our personal experiences can lead us badly wrong in numerous
well-documented ways. There's a reason why double-blind experiments are
considered the right way to test hypotheses, and it's because very
smart, experienced experts find myriad ways to unintentionally fool
themselves all the time.

The death of King Charles II:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OeA_OKqqBJ4

You're right, of course. Also, I assume that Pruitt has some financial
connection to some of the pedal manufacturers.
Still, collecting clinical information of this type can be useful if
properly interpreted. I'm not sure how you'd do a double-blind study on
a variable so obvious to the subjects.

Steve

The lesson there isn't that King Charles II's physicians were dumbasses,
it is that personal experience and non-EB "best practices" in any field
can mislead you.

I'm surprised to see Andy (AKA Dr. Waveflow) represented as an
advocate for pedal float. Back in the 90's he was very much against
free float in pedals (Speedplay) and would recommend Time.- Hide quoted text -

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Some would say that Speedplay's don't have float, only rotation. Time
pedals, on the other hand, don't rotate on a single pivot point but do
allow for side-to-side float combined with minimal rotation
throughout.

I used Time pedals for about two years and found them to be much
better for me than the Look-style pedals I was using before. I
switched to Speedplay's the first year they came out and haven't had
knee problem one since then, which is remarkable considering the
severity of the DJD in my knees and the complete lack of cartilage in
one knee and severe laxity in both knees.

I can't speak to what Time pedals are like now, but I can definitively
say I am a big believer in Speedplay pedals.

OK, free rotation then. I got a free pair of Speedplays from a
teammate that was warned off them. I had used the Sampson Stratics
pedal previously which also had free rotation and had liked it, even
though the cleat was hard to walk on. I switched when I had a
catastrophic cleat failure that cost me a race, and then I simply
couldn't buy a replacement cleat even though the Sampson HQ was in
Denver. I panicked and bought some Time Criterium boat anchors. I had
a problem coming out of them in sprints, twice in one sprint I recall.
That's when I switched to Speedplay in the early 90's. I used to have
a set with the original all-aluminum bodies.

Bret
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