Re: Is anyone clean?

B. Lafferty wrote:
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Tom Kunich wrote:
B. Lafferty wrote:
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preston.crawford@xxxxxxxxx wrote:
Watched the prologue to the Dauphine yesterday after having been too
busy to follow pro cycling for a few months. Almost the entire
broadcast seemed to be taken up with who was out of the race for
doping, who was allowed in even though they're suspected, which
teams
are gone, which might be gone for the TDF this year. It was unreal.
Maybe I haven't been following the pro cycling long enough so I'm a
naive wide-eyed idealist, but it was insane to listen to an hour and
a
half of OLN basically explaining who has and hasn't been caught
doping,
more or less.

When you have Armstrong's former right hand man (Haras), a former
teammate (Hamilton), an entire team undera cloud (Phonak) and on
and
on and on it's hard not to wonder if it's not time just to cancel
the
TDF and wait until there is real testing in place.

And please don't give me the (baseball players use steroids)
argument.
I don't watch baseball. I stopped watching long ago. And I'll stop
watching cycling if every race is a jig-saw puzzle of who got caught
and who didn't. Not so much because it screws with the integrity of
the
sport (although it does destroy what little integrity is left), but
more because it's boring to watch a sport where half of the
discussion
and drama is about cheating.

There is cheating in professional sports! Isn't that a surprise?
Cyclnig has its fair share of the cheaters since endurance sports are
most likely to be enhanced by undetectable or nearly so drugs.
Surprised?

But the MAJORITY of riders do not use illegal performance enhancing
drugs. I'm sort of remaining neutral on the blood packing stuff.

You've been writing here since at least 1994 that there is no serious
doping
problem in cycling. Hundreds of positives have put the lie to that
Kunich
absurdity. Add some 200 blood doping riders to your "minority." And
that
was only one operation in Spain. There are others.

I'm
wondering what an "honest" rider does to defend himself against
undetectable drugs that boost hematocrit to the legal limit.

Simpleton. You just don't get it. The blood dopers inject the blood
before
racing but after the vampires might strike. They don't get blood
tested
after the race and can rehydrate/dilute the crit by dawn. You don't
need
drugs like EPO anymore. EPO by microdose is for the poorer members of
the
peloton at this point.


Autologous blood transfusions are probably as safe a preparation as
you
can make. I don't like them but legalizing them would certainly put a
kink in the EPO traffikers.

There can be adverse reactions to autologus transfusions from a number
of
causes, including improper storage and transport. Hopefully, there will
be a
test for autologous transfusions in the next year. Do you think that
might
have been the underlying cause of Basso's problems in last year's Giro?

There's the old Brian we all know and laugh at.

You really believe that more drugs = more wins so there's really no
reason for you to have any interest in racing nor in attending this
group save your belief that we all MUST be convinced that racing is
tainted.

I hate to point this out, but there might just as likely be adverse
reactions to simple vitamin injections as to autologous transfusions
but then you probably already know that and this is simply your way of
shaking the grass hut.

But just out of curiosity - do you actually believe that anyone pays
the slightest attention to anything you have to say anymore?


I like Lafferty, he seems honest in his beliefs; I like Tom Kunich
cause he answers my questions; I like trg cause everything is
"candyass" although he has horrible taste in women (just kidding..une
blague); I like that Gorilla guy cause he's just crazy, And the
"dumbass" guy is funny and witty. Bob Martin is ok too, but all that
math scares me. But my question is for Lafferty, cause he appears to be
into the drug scandal pretty deep:
A while ago it came out that Lance had invested some money into a
lab that tests for drugs in cyclists, I don't know all the details, but
do you think he did it to cover himself or so that other riders would
not be able to use the drugs themselves and thus out-perform him?

This was discussed here a while ago. IMO, it represents a clear conflict of
interest for the UCI to accept such a gift. As to Armstrong's intentions in
making the gift, best ask Armstrong.

Brian at his comedic best. Lance bought MODERN detection equipment for
the UCI so that they could detect much smaller doses. Obviously having
greater detecting power is a conflict of interest to a lawyer.

.

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