Re: Atlantis, New Orleans, fabled underwater cities....

"Carl Sundquist" <carlsun@xxxxxxx> wrote in message
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> Where have you seen that the people of N.O. are any less accepting of
> responsibility than the people who live along the fault lines in CA?

Could it be because they expected the US Government to somehow prevent a
Hurricane from hitting them? Oh, yeah, in fact I don't believe that a
hurricane of ANY strenth ever had a direct hit on New Orleans. Could it be
that New Orleans local government and Louisiana State government were
allowing New Orleans to expand and build up all over the place despite the
fact that the town was shown in study after study to be extremely suseptible
to high level hurricanes which occur every 20 years or so in that area?

http://www.e11th-hour.org/resources/timelines/v.hurricanes.us.html

> I don't even need to add comment to this to refute your story.
>
> http://nisee.berkeley.edu/loma_prieta/loma_prieta.html
>
> "On October 17, 1989, an earthquake measuring 7.0 on the Richter scale
> rocked the San Francisco Bay Area in the early evening, collapsing a
> portion of the San Francisco Bay Bridge and a three-quarter mile,
> double-decked section of the Nimitz freeway in Oakland known as the
> Cypress Viaduct. As well, the shaking damaged a large number of
> buildings in the cities of Watsonville, Santa Cruz, and Oakland and in
> the San Francisco districts of the Marina and South of Market. The
> earthquake resulted in 63 deaths, 13,757 injuries. Property losses
> amounted to 1,018 homes destroyed, 23,408 homes damaged; 366 businesses
> destroyed, 3,530 businesses damaged. The total estimated direct
> economic loss was valued at more than $5.9 billion (US$ 1989 dollars)
> in public and private property damage. Despite these tragic losses, the
> Loma Prieta earthquake was a moderate California earthquake whose
> epicenter was located at a distance over 50 miles south of heavily
> populated San Francisco and Oakland in the Santa Cruz Mountains on the
> San Andreas Fault. In less than fifteen seconds of ground shaking, the
> Loma Prieta earthquake awakened a nation to the threat to life and
> safety posed by strong, urban earthquakes. "

Err, remember I live RIGHT here? The damage to my house? One of the support
beams holding up the patio roof sank 2 inches into the ground and had to be
jacked up and replaced.

The collapse of the Cypress Structure and the later condemnation of the
Skyway in San Francisco were hushed up but in fact were due to union graft
and mafia payoffs. These structures were built with only 20% of the steel in
them as were required by the building standards of the day.

The damage that led to the fires in the Marina district of San Francisco
were caused because owners had cut out all of the supporting understructure
of the houses in order to put in garages into houses that never were
designed to have them. Therefore the houses became essentially a house on 7'
stilts without any lateral support.

The Bay Bridge failure was indeed a real failure. The maintenance on the
bridge hadn't included replacement of these bolts but they would have broken
anyway. However, if the undercarryings had been just 2" longer that section
wouldn't have fallen. And it turns out that it was originally specified to
be 4" longer and was changed during construction for reasons unknown.

Otherwise in the second worst earthqake in northern California in 200 years,
there was essentially no damage. All roads were open and in nine days San
Francisco had checked all the emergency stuff and was back in business as if
it had never happened.

The Bay Bridge required about two months because they had to be sure that
there were no other structural problems and they went over the bridge one
bolt at a time with unltrasonic detectors.

The politicians NEVER brought up the criminal causes of the Cypress
Structure and the San Francisco Skyway. None of he media would report on it.

So tell me about this great risk everyone here is taking as opposed to New
Orleans which was built

http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/HAW2/english/surge/new_orleans.shtml

http://www.enquirer.com/editions/2004/09/15/loc_loc1ivannawlins.html

"NEW ORLEANS - The worst-case scenario here - a direct strike by a
full-strength Hurricane Ivan - could submerge much of this historic city
treetop-deep in a stew of sewage, industrial chemicals and fire ants, and
the inundation could last for weeks, experts say.
If the storm were strong enough, Ivan could drive water over the tops of the
levees that protect the city from the Mississippi River and vast Lake
Pontchartrain. And with the city sitting in a saucer-shaped depression that
dips as much as 9 feet below sea level, there would be nowhere for all that
water to drain."

Note the date on that posting.

By the way, were you aware that the US Taxpayers paid for levies 16 feet
high all around the city? This means that the tops of the levies were
something like 7 feet on the average above sea level.

The storm surge was estimated by some sources as 30 feet and the storm
MISSED New Orleans. They only received a side of it.


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