Re: Waiting in traffic lines.

On Apr 18, 8:44 am, frkry...@xxxxxxxxx wrote:
On Apr 18, 1:15 am, Tom Sherman <sunsetss0...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:



Doug Cimper wrote:
victor....@xxxxxxxxx wrote:
On Apr 16, 2:00 pm, Marz <marzjenni...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
And as for right turning traffic, you're correct drivers never look
right before going right...

Why should they look there (beyond looking ahead to the right for
traffic in the crosswalk)?

If one is in the right most lane, it's quite reasonable to expect that
there is nothing coming up behind on the right when one is making a
right turn.

Because if a pedestrian is stepping off the corner that they are turning
on, what will happen?
~

Quite of few pedestrians are hit this way by drivers not looking for
them. The situation is bad enough that in some places (such as college
campuses), right turns are prohibited at certain intersections (except
for buses and emergency vehicles).

Being "right-hooked" is also a reason why riding at speed on the
sidewalk and crossing intersections is a very bad idea, and why "bicycle
lanes" on the sidewalk can be death traps.

Ditto for bicycle lanes on the street. Two of last year's cyclist
fatalities in Portland were standing in bike lanes at red lights.
Large vehicles at their left crushed them doing right turns on red.

The second of the two was traveling at a high cycling speed just
before the incident.

When you're at the same speed as the motor vehicles, you should almost
always be right in line with the motor vehicles. And "same speed"
includes zero speed.

In the suburbs filtering won't give you much time advantage at all
over other street traffic. In a congested city at rush hour, not
filtering means you're sitting in a traffic jam. You'll still be
downtown when a cyclist using his common sense filtering ability will
be home already. That's a pretty high price to pay to make a
statement. I guess that's why even the hardcore 'vehicular cyclist'
statement-makers suddenly forget all about that when they're in that
situation. What a bunch of hypocrites.

.

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