Re: The case for physically separated bike lanes

Wayne Pein <wpein@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Mark Hickey wrote:

Wayne Pein <wpein@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:


Physically separated bike lanes are an abomination of an abomination.
However, like separated bike paths, and "normal" bike lanes, physically
separated bike lanes can be useful in very limited applications. The
problem is that zealots do not understand, or care about, their
limitations and downsides, and want them implemented everywhere.


Wayne, I think that you're solidly a zealot, unlike almost everyone
else in this discussion. When you consider separate bike lanes "an
abomination of abomination", it's clear that reason and logic have
long since left the building.

Mark,

Perhaps you should read more carefully. Bike lanes are merely an
abomination. *Physically separated* bike lanes are an abomination of an
abomination.

Frankly, I think the numerous papers I've written on the topic are chuck
full of logic and reason, whereas the position of bike lane supporters
is bereft of it.

If the term "abomination of an abomination" doesn't sound over the top
to you, then you're beyond the "logic and reason" phase of the
discussion (waaaaaay beyond).

Like it or not, many of us live where workable bicycle lanes add to
the enjoyment of riding. You'd be much better off realizing that it's
not about politics or virtual car/penis envy or anything else - but
just getting to work or the grocery store with the least drama.


Can you describe to me how/why "getting to work or the grocery store" in
a 16'lane is more "drama" than getting there in a narrower Bike
Reservation?

Not to you, apparently. ;-)

Mark Hickey
Habanero Cycles
http://www.habcycles.com
Home of the $795 ti frame
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