Re: Knee problems, conflicting diagnosis, MRI

On Mar 5, 1:41 am, Luke <lucasirag...@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
In article <1173029923.833156.226...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, len



<marilen.corcio...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
On Mar 4, 5:59 pm, "Will" <waller.will...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
On Mar 4, 4:56 am, "len" <marilen.corcio...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

On Mar 4, 5:10 am, "Leo Lichtman" <l.licht...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

"Daryl Hunt" wrote: Seek a competent Doctor.

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Daryl, Len has been to FOUR doctors. He is looking for advice on whom
to
believe. How do you propose that he narrow the search? I'm sure that
each
one of these charges plenty for his service, and I'm sure Len is
willing to
pay for effective treatment, but how does a layman cope with soaring
costs
and no results?

In my day to day life I am a computer science engineer. If I work on
product which then has some problems I am put to the wall but it seems
to me that the doctors can give some contradictory opinions and
solutions, some of which are certainly wrong and everything is ok.
Searching for various opinions on my knees problems I have found
horrific stories of what doctors did to patients.

Perhaps you might share a bit of sports history... did you run cross
country, play ball, etc.? 28 years is young for degenerative
anything...

I did a lot of sports during high school, cycling, basket, mountain
randonee but nothing extreme or professional. Then I stopped (around
19), got a job and started working a lot, 12-16h on a chair in front
of a computer. I gained a lot of weight. It lasted for 3-4 years and
then I realised the wrong doing and started doing some sport again
mainly cycling. I have a road bike since 2 years and I did no more
than 5000 km per year with the roadbike (biggest trip was this:
http://www.len.ro/cycling/to-the-black-sea/usually in the weekends
and much less last year than the year before. I also have another bike
for trips around the city. I started loosing weight but still work a
lot since I have my own company which I try to maintain. I am living
and working in a very cold place on the north-west and have
experiences problems with other articulations: hands, ankle, head
which have faded away after some time. The knee problem is the worst
yet.

Len

Another unqualified opinion following....

I'd interpret the sudden onset of your affliction as a fact militating
against a chronic degenerative condition. Your youth as well. As to
what exactly is the cause of the pain -- I don't know.

But it is strongly recommended that you relegate surgery to the option
of last resort and then only if there is some measure of consensus
among doctors. Don't go under the knife unless absolutely necessary.

Step one, which you've wisely already undertaken, is to take stock of
your lifestyle and recognize that it was imperilling your health. My
experience is that aches and pains come and go, often with no plausible
cause, and that seemingly unrelated areas such as diet -- a regimen
heavy in animal based foods can significantly exacerbate arthritis for
instance -- can be aggravating factors.

Given your sedentary lifestyle perhaps the pain may just indicate that
you're trying to do too much too fast -- periods of relative inactivity
punctuated by stretches of intense or prolonged exertion is a sure way
to encourage injury as many an office worker who suffered a heart
attack while shovelling snow will attest. Perhaps a particularly
strenuous outing strained your knees which, by your note of numerous
joint difficulties, may have also been suffering from a general joint
ailment originating ????.

And sometimes, if a demanding schedule and fatigue abates, the problem
just resolves itself. Len, maybe replacing the booleans and functions
before your nose with some roses and doing a whole lotta nothing for
while is just what the doctor should order.

Luke

Luke, I completely agree with you, work is bad if no space is taken. I
guess the everyday life is much more complicated than it is supposed
to be and this strains the body (http://www.len.ro/mind/universe/work-
addiction-hunger/).

Len
www.len.ro

.

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