Re: Bicylist shot and killed for thrill

frkrygow@xxxxxxxxx wrote:
> gds wrote:
>>
>>
>> A nice moral position. But only if it were so simple.
>> While pacifism is nice in concept it has never worked so well in
>> practice. There is a lot of gray area in determining just what
>> "simply following orders" means. There is little argument on the
>> evil of Nazi atrocities. There is probably little argument on the
>> use of violence in a purely self defense mode. Everything in between
>> gets a bit complicated.
>
> Yes, it gets complicated. The entire idea of war is complicated. If
> you're a member of a religion that says "Thou shalt not kill," when is
> killing justified?
>
> Some would say absolutely never. Others disagree, saying it's
> reasonable to (for example) kill a person who would otherwise kill
> many other innocent people. And the same concept extends to
> countries and leaders of countries.
>
> Problem is, Bill S., George W. Bush and most proponents of this war
> act as if only they have the answers to the above dilemma. But the
> questions have been around for centuries, and many VERY intelligent
> people have done LOTS of thinking, writing and discussing of these
> issues. Furthermore, they did it without bias - that is, when they
> had no need of conquering an oil-producing country.
>
> What emerged was the principles of "just war" - a list of conditions
> under which going to war was morally justified. Google for it.
> You'll see that Bush and team's invasion and conquest if Iraq
> absolutely fails to be justifiable by those standards.
>
> Does Bush know such standards exist? I doubt it. I doubt Sornson
> knows either. And while some other neo-cons may have heard of these
> ideas, they seem to feel they are wiser than all the philosophers of
> the past 500 years put together.
>
> Briefly, they ignored any such dispassionate thinking. They marched
> us into a travesty, and now that people complain, they say "We can't
> pull out now!"
>
> Disgusting.

Not that you'll bother, but read Joe Lieberman's editorial in today's WSJ:
http://www.opinionjournal.com/editorial/feature.html?id=110007611

(It first asked for registration but then the article appeared without it.)

Word, Joe. Word. (Using my faux "profound" tone of type.)


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