Re: Bush biking toward nowhere?

frkrygow@xxxxxxxxx wrote:

Something like that.  Or maybe a compromise position:  At least let the
public see the caskets coming home.  At least let them see the faces of
those who have really sacrificed for this astounding mistake.


So you don't think the public is aware that soldiers, contractors
miscellaneous others, get killed in Iraq?

Perhaps we should have a photo and brief biography for every person
killed in an automobile accident.  Perhaps seeing the persons
extracted in all their gore from a smashed up automobile would
make people realize "cars kill".  We'd be a safer society when we
operate our automobiles.

As it is, this is a nice, sanitary war for oil.  It's our patriotic
duty to keep shopping.  My God, don't consider conserving oil!  Why,
anything smaller than a Ford F-100 would be unpatriotic, because it
couldn't carry enough magnetic ribbons!


Cynicism seems to become you.  And BTW, you won't find too many
Ford F-100's on the road these days.  More likely F-150s.

Oh, and don't mind those oil company profit sheets.  Don't mind that we
never _declared_ war.  Don't pay attention to those grieving mothers.
Let's all just take a month off - maybe invite our Saudi friends to an
oil-fueled barbecue.


Thank God there weren't many with this sort of thinking during
WWII, the Civil War, the Revolution.

We'd have lost!

Mark, that's pitiful.  The claim was that there were WMDs ready to go
in 45 minutes.  The claim was that we had to invade ASAP to prevent
Saddam using them on other countries.

You will apparently be the last man alive to admit that was totally
false.


It was also predicted the first Gulf War would have something on the
order of 10,000 killed.  That the Iraq War would have 100's of thousands
killed with towns being fought over as per Stalingrad; that refugee
camps would be overflowing with disease ridden persons starving to
death.

The Ardennes was a "quiet sector" of the WWII European front.  The Nazis
were finished.  Possibly "home by Christmas"...until the Battle of
the Bulge.

And on and on it goes.  But given our current political climate where
the Lefties try to make political hay from any mis-step or error, an
intelligence failure becomes a plot by evil types to spread death and
destruction (and of course increase profits).  All coming from persons
one would think would have the smarts to be able to be a bit less
dogmatic in their thinking.  But alas, such are not the times in which
we live.

I already have.  Morality is out the window when there's money to be
made.


Nothing new in this great observation.

Nope.  Although this is beyond you, I don't believe in taking over
entire countries based on foggy intelligence.  Preemptive attacks don't
meet the centuries-old definition of a "just war."


I doubt there is any such thing in the minds of the political Left
pacifist.

:-)  Yet somehow, almost the entire UN - hell, the entire world -
decided against us.  We managed to get a few hundred personnel out of
the countries that we could hit up the hardest.  It doesn't take a
rocket scientist to know why.


I rue the day US policies depend on the UN, or "a majority" of
nations in the world, at least half of which are totalitarian in
one form or another.

Whoa!  Did they crack down on those guys that attacked London?  Are
there no more of them waiting around in Saudi Arabia?  Are their
aggressive fundamantalist training camps now out of commission?

And say - what exactly HAVE we said to the Saudis about the fact that
they seem to be sending out more civilian killers than anybody?
(Excepting us, of course...)

Seems to me the only thing we've told them is "We'll take another few
million barrels of your oil, please.  Price is no object."


Get off the oil stuff will ya?  Geez.  Talk about one track minds!

The US gets about 1/4 of its oil from all Middle East sources combined.
Saudi Arabia is a large provider, but so is Canada, Mexico, Venezuela
and Nigeria.

I haven't heard plans to invade those countries to control their oil,
but perhaps that's because they're already US lackies?


SMH

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