Re: smog was combustion was: SVEA 123
- From: eugene@xxxxxxxxxxxx (Eugene Miya)
- Date: 6 Jan 2006 14:11:24 -0700
In article <k5llh+ThtrvDFwYe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>,
Chris Townsend <Chris@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>Highly regulated in cities here. London smog. 1952.
>>>>>>>Yes. Now the air "looks" clean.
>>>>>Too much traffic.
>>>>The experiment taxing city interior driving is interesting.
>>>It seems to be working, despite almost uniform media dislike.
>>Maybe next you will try Diamond lanes.
>
>Maybe.
>Car pooling hasn't really taken off here.
Nor has organ donation.
Seal belts.
Air bags.
Parachutes....
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>3 Sveas. Wonderful stoves. But I believe production is ceasing.
>>>>>>>>>>>I have dozens of stoves! And a big old house.
>>>>>>US cities are filled with people who have no idea how to use this stuff.
>>>>>>But they buy it anyway.
>>>>>Canister stoves are ideal for most people.
>>>Easier to use than anything else.
>>They can light a match or a cig lighter.
>>But they are afraid of priming. They can't start a wood fire w/o
>>starter fluid.
>
>Exactly. Hence the appeal of canister stoves.
Hey. I know. I've seen these things.
>>>>>>>White gas/multi-fuel stoves have always been in a small minority here.
>>>>>>>Kerosene was popular until the late 60s. Since then most people use
>>>>>>>canisters or alcohol (Trangia).
>>>>>>We have Coleman to influence that from WWII.
>>>>>There are no significant UK stove companies. Over the decades Primus,
>>>>>Trangia and Camping Gaz have probably been the biggest names. Swedish
>>>>>and French.
>>>>The US was highly influenced by the flux of WWII army stuff.
>>>>The crap begat better, more durable stuff suitable for car camping.
>>>So has the British army. Ex WWII army gear was the mainstay of hill
>>>goers in the 1950s, as books of that period show.
>>Sten gun thread in s.m.m.
>
>S.m.m.?
Sci.military.moderated (founded by Thaker and now moderated by George Herbert).
He is one of the good guys on the net.
>>>The move towards modern gear began in the mid 1960s.
>>Well, actually more like 1946. It just took reaction time.
>>It started with the atomic bomb. At first it negated a lot of ideas
>>like armor plate on ships, steel for armor on APCs, etc.
>>Now it's the computer. Even just in plain hiking (think digital
>>cameras).
>
>Well, the first artificial fibres were used in clothing in the 1890s
>(rayon) and nylon was invented in 1931.
Nylon took off for parachutes. Rope and later fabric benefitted from that.
We can go back to The Iron Age.
>However in outdoor gear in the UK it was only in the 60s that nylon
>clothing and packs began to appear. When I started hiking in the 60s
>cotton anoraks, wool shirts and trousers, canvas rucksacks, cotton
>shelled sleeping bags and cotton tents were standard.
Oh yes Ventile. Nylon came in to replace fabrics like silk.
The problem is that there was all this stuff left over from WWII.
There is still M1 Girand ammunition from WWII and Korea in 8 round clips
to this day. But I was given two MREs as a going away present Wed.
No heaters.
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