Re: Overwhelmed by ATC...

Like other folks have said, radio speak is a different language and it takes
people time to learn it and use it correctly in context. What worked for me
was listening to live air traffic control via the internet. www.liveatc.net
wasn't around when I was training but I was able to get some other feeds.
LiveATC gives such a great selection but most importantly, they have
archives of many of the feeds.

What I would do if I were learning is to:
1) listen to it as much as I can to get my brain used to the phraseology.
Try to understand what they are saying and look up the terms that are
unfamiliar.
2) pick some archived feeds with similar traffic. After I hear each call
from ATC, I'd pause the MP3 and "answer" them. After resuming the audio, I
could get a feel for how well I did compared to the other guy.
3) work my way up to the busy ones (JFK Approach, BOS Approach, etc.)

Getting good on the radio is a long process. Many private pilots will never
sound like an old hat airline pilot but there are many that do.

Hope this helps,

Marco

<snoopy_@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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>
> Anyone have any good info for ATC Comm?
>
> I've read the AIM, although it was not very detailed. I also
> purchased a book "Say Again, Please," but again it didn't help me much.
> The "Say Again, Please" book seems great for someone who has been
> flying for a little while, and will help you fill in a lot of holes,
> but not for a complete novice (no offense to the author, I've seen him
> in this group, I just need more spoon feeding maybe). I have also spen
> san afternoon at a controlled airport and listened with a handheld
> scanner; I've even recorded the comm traffic for later listening, but
> it still is difficult picking up the information from the comm.
>
> I've only tried it twice, and at best you speak maybe 30 seconds
> total before landing. And if they just give you a straight in you
> don't spend much speaking at all. Other times there's a little static,
> or stepped on transmissions. Most of the time though I'll here
> something that takes me a second or two to process and understand, then
> the instructor gets freaked out because the response isn't quick
> enough. What did the ATC just tell me? Was it an instruction? Do I
> have to repeat a portion or all of it back? Is it just a simple
> affirmative, or roger. Ughhh! I even tried to fly using some online
> sims to see if that helped, but that was just tortures path to
> installing loads of software that then needed to be troubleshot and
> fixed.
>
> If anyone knows of any simple guides or info on the web, please
> post them. Thank you.
>



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